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I'd expect them to make a difference in terms of body control and more consistent handling, but their experience (and yours) is that the NVH is too high a price to pay in that application.
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04-03-2020, 03:47 PM | #24 | ||
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Are you also planning to do monoballs on your LCA/wishbone as well or is the current setup with the UCA/thrust arm monoballs good enough? Thanks in advance Quote:
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Well done man.. I have a full suspension thread going too using these same inserts. I also did the differential as well.
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CAUTION: You REALLY want to drive a car with the Monoball FIRST if you can.
The harshness IS THERE. I mean you WILL love how incredibly crisp turn-in is and the overall feeling when the car corners. But it is a noticeably different ride quality. For instance... STOCK CONTROL ARMS: Hit a pothole. Thump. MONOBALL: Hit a pothole. BANG!!! If you daily drive really bad roads the monoball solution is about the only time I wouldn't recommend it. I come from Miatas, E36 M3 and the BRZ... so harsh road transitions aren't that shocking to me. But every person has a different preference and tolerance level. I'm running the Turner Monoball. And yes, I love it. |
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Part of me wonders if the differences in opinions is due to the extra bracing the F31/33/34/36 has over the F30/32. In addition to the bracing going from the center stiffening plate to the forward rear subframe mounts, they also have a brace going from the sides (just under the rear passenger seat) to a central point below the trunk.
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I do know someone who replaced both sets of front control arms with VAC monoballs but I haven't had a chance to discuss with him in detail. I already spent $549 plus labor for the thrust arm monoballs. Right now I don't see a benefit in doubling that to also do the wishbones with monoballs. I read the post about harshness with the Turner monoballs. Honestly my VAC monoballs aren't displaying any of that. I know that all monoballs are not the same. "Monoball" is a description of the generic design but each manufacturer implements that design in their own way. It doesn't surprise me that descriptions that guys post about how their front monoball thrust arms drive can sound a bit different. From the photos that I have seen that do not look the same. Hope this helps! |
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04-03-2020, 08:13 PM | #31 | |
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I'm running KMAC adjustable caster monoballs in my tension strut and VAC monoballs in my LCA. Farkie is running a similar setup but with the difference being he has KMAC adjustable camber poly bushings in his LCA. When driving our cars back to back, my car has just an edge in response over his but his car is very quick to respond as well. If you're looking to add camber, I'd recommend the KMAC LCA bushing but since I also run camber plates, I opted for VAC's LCA bushing to replace my powerflex poly bushing. Why is shown in the video that Farkie made on the LCA installation video.
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https://www.bimmerworld.com/Suspensi...shing-Set.html My understanding is that F8X M3/M4s basically have solid bushings or a solid connection between the chassis and rear subframe unlike the F3X series. |
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I have been running delrin bushings in the rear for around a year now. Yes i did get extra vibration but its not substantial imo. I dial some of it out with the dampers but it is still there.
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