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      11-24-2020, 07:58 AM   #1
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Question Black Friday:BM3 or MHD or MG?

Hello,

I've just bought a 2016 340i with 74k km. I would like to unleash some of the power of the 3.0L (compare to some other german 2.0L engines, I am sure that there are some juice left). This is my daily driver and my wife will drive it (and most likely my daughter in 2 years since my other car is manual).

I will do the basic upgrades: spark plugs, intake, upgraded catted DP. Catless reminds me my old 1989 CRX that I could see through the floor. I could upgrade the fuel pump in two years.

I am looking at the black Friday deals:
MG 15% off - Total Stage 1 (including logger): 382.47 USD
MHD 15% off - Total Stage 1 (including monitor): 459.00 USD
BM3 0% off - Total All maps: 645.00 USD (I know, I can get most likely 10-15% on Facebook groups)

My priorities: reliability(50%), money(40%), bells & whistles(10%)

So, my question to bimmer fans, what do you recommend considering my requirements ?

Thank you all for your feedback!!
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      11-24-2020, 09:05 AM   #2
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I have been using bootmod3 on my personal car and I'm very happy with the results. Strong OTS power, reliable, constantly getting updated with new features and unmatched support from PTF and the community

I also have 185 Bootmod3 customer reviews posted on my website
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      11-24-2020, 01:34 PM   #3
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I have bootmod3 and have been very happy with it so far. There are many people who run the MHD and have a ton of success with it.

bootmod3 had a black Friday sale last year iirc so they 'll probably have one this year too
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      11-24-2020, 01:47 PM   #4
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I do see a strong preference for the community on BM3. They have also a very good marketing campaign. As the same time, since, I am probably a Stage 1 or at most stage 2 user. I don't think that I need all bells and whistles. I will install it and forget it like I did for my N52 with bimmerlabs.

The extra bucks that you spend of BM3, is it for reliability and performance or for the extra features that I won't use anyway?

Thanks for your feedback.
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      11-24-2020, 02:16 PM   #5
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I do see a strong preference for the community on BM3. They have also a very good marketing campaign. As the same time, since, I am probably a Stage 1 or at most stage 2 user. I don't think that I need all bells and whistles. I will install it and forget it like I did for my N52 with bimmerlabs.

The extra bucks that you spend of BM3, is it for reliability and performance or for the extra features that I won't use anyway?

Thanks for your feedback.
In your case its probably for the extra features, that being said MHD has many of the same features, I don't know much about MG personally
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      11-24-2020, 02:33 PM   #6
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JR Auto Performance DBA aka MG Flasher has been tuning BMWs for a long time. I ran his tune on my old diesel flawlessly. That said, I am looking into the same...stuck between BM3 and MG and also plan to just stay stage 1. Following this for any feedback, unfortunately, when it comes to tunes, it's rare someone has experience with both, so you will get a lot of biased opinions and stage 1 isn't all that popular.

I trust Jarek at JR but I'm open to BM3 too. JR is located in Oakville, Canada if that makes any difference to you.
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Chaton78 I'm in the same boat as you. Haven't heard much about MG but it's undoubtedly a steal compared to the other two.

To be fair though, you're comparing stage 1s to a fully unlocked BM3. A better comparison would be:

MG: $467
MHD: $461
BM3: $645

One thing to consider is BM3 has resale value where I don't think the other two do -- in which case they all end up pretty close. If I can find a nice BF deal for BM3 I'll probably end up going with that
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Hello,

I've just bought a 2016 340i with 74k km. I would like to unleash some of the power of the 3.0L (compare to some other german 2.0L engines, I am sure that there are some juice left). This is my daily driver and my wife will drive it (and most likely my daughter in 2 years since my other car is manual).

I will do the basic upgrades: spark plugs, intake, upgraded catted DP. Catless reminds me my old 1989 CRX that I could see through the floor. I could upgrade the fuel pump in two years.

I am looking at the black Friday deals:
MG 15% off - Total Stage 1 (including logger): 382.47 USD
MHD 15% off - Total Stage 1 (including monitor): 459.00 USD
BM3 0% off - Total All maps: 645.00 USD (I know, I can get most likely 10-15% on Facebook groups)

My priorities: reliability(50%), money(40%), bells & whistles(10%)

So, my question to bimmer fans, what do you recommend considering my requirements ?

Thank you all for your feedback!!
MHD is now $389... can't beat that... also your in Canada... MHD is load based and adjusts for the weather... from my understanding BM3 has issues if running ethanol in the cold... My wife has no issues driving it.. but I do having her drive it... lol... just leave it in ECO or comfort mode for her... sport mode the throttle gets a little snappy...

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      11-24-2020, 09:47 PM   #9
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MHD is now $389... can't beat that... also your in Canada... MHD is load based and adjusts for the weather... from my understanding BM3 has issues if running ethanol in the cold... My wife has no issues driving it.. but I do having her drive it... lol... just leave it in ECO or comfort mode for her... sport mode the throttle gets a little snappy...
actually 389Eur or $462USD (On sale)

MG flasher is approximately the same cost if you get the OTS MAP pack and Logging, but you can also just get the flashing license and a stage of your choice for under $300usd...that's just nuts. On the flipside, a used BM3 license is also around $300...so decisions decisions
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      11-24-2020, 10:26 PM   #10
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actually 389Eur or $462USD (On sale)

MG flasher is approximately the same cost if you get the OTS MAP pack and Logging, but you can also just get the flashing license and a stage of your choice for under $300usd...that's just nuts. On the flipside, a used BM3 license is also around $300...so decisions decisions
Gotta have logging.. MHD has auto-log... any aggressive throttle and then it logs... you get nice clean logs that way... also MHD is load based... If you live in a 4 season place it will adjust accordingly to weather conditions/ elevations etc... nice if you run ethanol...
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BM3 all the records FTW! All the new stuff things got coming is out of this world honestly. Peep their Insta or Facebook
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      11-25-2020, 10:11 AM   #12
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Do any of these tunes install with an Apple iPhone 6s? The adapter is like $150 bucks for BM3...
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      11-25-2020, 10:50 AM   #14
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It's better to buy it from a dealer as some dealers offer a free Enet cable with the license

We offer the phone adapter with the license as well and more importantly a bm3 sticker which guarantees an additional 5 whp
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      11-25-2020, 12:27 PM   #15
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Thank you all the feedback.

Yes, I do believe that you need to include logging... My day job is system architecture... we cannot live without logging
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      11-25-2020, 01:26 PM   #16
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Do any of these tunes install with an Apple iPhone 6s? The adapter is like $150 bucks for BM3...
They have instructions if people want to DIY for their WiFi adapter too which is really nice. You can just run cable to your phone too though.
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It's better to buy it from a dealer as some dealers offer a free Enet cable with the license

We offer the phone adapter with the license as well and more importantly a bm3 sticker which guarantees an additional 5 whp
Mike, maybe I misunderstood you earlier. The adapter to use an iPhone 6s is included with the BM3 package ?
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Mike, maybe I misunderstood you earlier. The adapter to use an iPhone 6s is included with the BM3 package ?
We offer the newest iphone adapter only, im assuming the Iphone 6 uses the previous version
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What the best option for someone with mppsk, i was looking into buying bm3 but the stats say base on nonmppsk setup
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What the best option for someone with mppsk, i was looking into buying bm3 but the stats say base on nonmppsk setup
Bm3 is the only one that keeps the MPPSK as your stock AFAIK it even tunes the car right on top of that
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Bm3 is the only one that keeps the MPPSK as your stock AFAIK it even tunes the car right on top of that
I believe MG flasher retains the map you had on your car prior to flashing, and if it's MPPSK, then when you flash back to stock, it's the MPPSk map that is installed again.
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Bm3 from x-ph.com ftw! I got a great Black Friday deal a couple of years ago.
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