[jasemsport]

Originally Posted by ThaiBruin

I'm pretty sure it's not a hatchback. Just a more coupe-like profile with a regular trunk.

It's 100% a 5-door hatchback, i saw it in person...

[bimmerjph]

Originally Posted by 300hp

I worry that the 4 GC is going to look even bigger than the F32. It just seems wrong for the sedan to looks smaller than the coupe. They got it right with the 5er and the 6er. I don't like how this is playing out with the F30/2

It IS going to look bigger because it IS bigger. The 4er GC rides on the same LWB chassis that the 3er Li and the 3GT do.

[Jamesons Viggen]

Originally Posted by bimmerjph

It IS going to look bigger because it IS bigger. The 4er GC rides on the same LWB chassis that the 3er Li and the 3GT do.

Nope. Confirmed to be standard wheelbase.

[bimmerjph]

Originally Posted by Jamesons Viggen

Nope. Confirmed to be standard wheelbase.

Really? When was that? I must have missed it.

[Falafel Combo]

Originally Posted by bimmerjph

It IS going to look bigger because it IS bigger. The 4er GC rides on the same LWB chassis that the 3er Li and the 3GT do.

Reports so far is that it is standard wheelbase. Hoping to confirm that. A 4 GC on a long wheelbase would look pretty silly IMO. The 3 GT can pull off the added length due to it being higher off the ground and more round. The 4 GC will be lower, wider and more chiseled. Hoping the reports are correct.

[BwoodBMW]

The 6 GC pulls it off way better... there is something about this design that is just a little bit awkward looking which bums me out because I think the 6GC is absolutely gorgeous and was hoping to feel the same about the 4GC

[track_warrior]

Looks like a slammed 3series gt, not a big fan.

[chrisny]

Originally Posted by ILUSV

A traditional (looks wise) two door version of the current 3 series will look much different than the 4 series... if the 4 series is the two door version of the 3 series then what is the 4 series GC doing? and what if BMW decides to give you a two door 3 series?

I think the 4 series is intended to be a different car/line.

It is intended to be a different line, absolutely. But it's pretty well documented, from BMW, that 4 is the coupe and there will be no 3 coupe. Intended to stand out from the 3 more like the 6 stands out from the 5, yes. But there will be no 3 series coupe any longer. That's not my opinion, that's what BMW has said, officially. The '4' instead of '3 coupe' is both marketing strategy and a way to further make it stand out on its own, like the 6 does from the 5 despite their similar size.

The 4 is no more different compared to the F30 3 series than the E92 was from the E90. Both were intended to be more aggressive, 2 door versions of their sedan sibling. Both noticeably different going down the road, but both clearly siblings.

The 'Gran Coupe' thing is an entirely different animal. Like the article said, it's the sedan version of the coupe version of the sedan… Kind of silly really. But then again, I love the 6 Gran Coupe But truth be told, the Gran Coupe is truly based on the coupe, not the sedan variants. It's not like the 6GC nose looks like a 5 series… and from these pics, the 4GC has the same nose as the 4 coupe..

[Falafel Combo]

Originally Posted by BwoodBMW

The 6 GC pulls it off way better... there is something about this design that is just a little bit awkward looking which bums me out because I think the 6GC is absolutely gorgeous and was hoping to feel the same about the 4GC

We've only seen maybe 3 poorly edited pictures so far.

[chrisny]

Originally Posted by BwoodBMW

The 6 GC pulls it off way better... there is something about this design that is just a little bit awkward looking which bums me out because I think the 6GC is absolutely gorgeous and was hoping to feel the same about the 4GC

+1. I want a 6GC that isn't so damn big.

[chrisny]

Originally Posted by 300hp

I was at the dealership this week and I was in the sales room scoping out what BMW has on offer. This is probably the umpteenth time I have looked at the 4 series and I come to the same conclusion every time. It looks HUGE. Yes it's about the same size as the F30 but whatever optical illusion is at play just makes the car look big. The 6 series gran coupe that was there seemed to be about the same size as the 4er but as we know the 6er looks way better.

I worry that the 4 GC is going to look even bigger than the F32. It just seems wrong for the sedan to looks smaller than the coupe. They got it right with the 5er and the 6er. I don't like how this is playing out with the F30/2

The 6GC is almost 4" longer than the 5 series, which puts it about 15" longer than the 3 and 4 (which are the same length, btw). I don't think I would say in a million years that the 6GC even looks the same size as a 4 series coupe, not even close. The 6GC looks awesome and sleek despite it's massive size, but as small as a 4? no way. The thing is only 2" shorter than a 7!

[ThaiBruin]

Originally Posted by jasemsport

It's 100% a 5-door hatchback, i saw it in person...

I'm intrigued then. I love the slightly more versatile nature of a hatchback for storage versus a regular trunk.

[drob23]

I thought jalopnik cites bimmerpost, not the other way around?!?! What gives, how did they beat us to this

[ynotony]

Do the 4GC bashers really think BMW would spend the time/money/resources to create the 4GC if it was a near-identical product to the 3 series sedan?

It will be distinct. The fact that some people want one and others don't is proof of this.

[300hp]

Originally Posted by BwoodBMW

The 6 GC pulls it off way better... there is something about this design that is just a little bit awkward looking which bums me out because I think the 6GC is absolutely gorgeous and was hoping to feel the same about the 4GC

^this

The issue is not what the numbers say, it's how the optics play out in real life. The 6 GC appears small. The 4 appears to be big, it's not as well executed as I would have preferred.

[m630]

Somehow yahoo got the full scoop, 21 pix from bmw...

http://autos.yahoo.com/photos/2015-bmw-4-series-gran-coupe-first-look-1391201169-slideshow/

[BwoodBMW]

Originally Posted by m630

Somehow yahoo got the full scoop, 21 pix from bmw...

http://autos.yahoo.com/photos/2015-b...169-slideshow/

Wow... Yahoo hasn't scooped a story in 14 years, good for them. Some of those pics make it look pretty sharp but again, something about it just doesn't quite do it for me like the 6 GC

[BwoodBMW]

This angle looks great

This angle is where something bothers me...

[m630]

Somewhere along the development they went from planning to use the Li platform to the normal f30 wheelbase i can only assume based on alot of original details spyed, so now the trunk looks chopped and abit too short compared to the front end. Will need to see in the metal but like most was hoping for a true GC like my 6er, just abit smaller...

[Falafel Combo]

Originally Posted by BwoodBMW

This angle looks great

Yes! YESSSS! This is money!

[Ryan9095]

It looks too tall. The height makes the car appear bloated not sleek and sexy.

[jasemsport]

Looks like 3 seatbelts in the back! Wasn't sure about it when i saw it, this is a good thing! Car looks already better with these new pics :-)