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      07-20-2018, 09:31 PM   #23
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Runflats work as designed, despite how much enthusiasts hate them. In case of OP's situation, RF's would have been better than non RF's.
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I tried fix a flat...
You can't fix a broken leg with a band-aid either. But since the sidewall wasn't affected you probably could have limped home with it.
I was 70 miles away from home... no way I wud have made it..
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Excuse my rant... but this whole no spare business is absolute BS...

On monday i drove over a ceramic shard that punctured through my right rear tire.

Yes I had non-runflats but no run flat would have survived this puncture. The puncture was two inches long from what it looks to be a roof tile of some sort and to top it off i was 70 miles away from home... i then had to be towed back home and my car has been sitting since I have to special order my 255/35/19 tire... what an absolute shit show...

Why did bmw think runflat tires would be smarter than adding a spare in the trunk???
So what stopped you from picking up a used spare and putting it in your trunk on a 5 year old car if you were so concerned about this prior to yesterday?

Or was your planning worse than BMW’s?

Seems like it if you put non-rft on the vehicle with full knowledge this would happen with a flat.
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Excuse my rant... but this whole no spare business is absolute BS...

On monday i drove over a ceramic shard that punctured through my right rear tire.

Yes I had non-runflats but no run flat would have survived this puncture. The puncture was two inches long from what it looks to be a roof tile of some sort and to top it off i was 70 miles away from home... i then had to be towed back home and my car has been sitting since I have to special order my 255/35/19 tire... what an absolute shit show...

Why did bmw think runflat tires would be smarter than adding a spare in the trunk???
So what stopped you from picking up a used tire and putting it in your trunk on a 5 year old car if you were so concerned about this prior to yesterday?

Or was your planning worse than BMW’s?

Seems like it if you put non-rft on the vehicle with full knowledge this would happen with a flat.
i was always aware of the risk and my insurance was a bottle of fix a flat and AAA.... clearly the AAA paid off..

I honestly don't believe a run flat wud have survived this puncture so regardless of having a flat this end result would have been the same.

I would never want to stick a spare in the trunk if it is not properly secured... and there is not space for that in our cars...
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i was always aware of the risk and my insurance was a bottle of fix a flat and AAA.... clearly the AAA paid off..

I honestly don't believe a run flat wud have survived this puncture so regardless of having a flat this end result would have been the same.

I would never want to stick a spare in the trunk if it is not properly secured... and there is not space for that in our cars...
And you just answered your own questions.

That you did not prepare for a more critical situation is on you.

At least you prepared better than others on forum.

If you want to prepare for all possible situations, suggest always trailer a complete set of spare parts and tools with you at all times.

Otherwise, shit happens.

And most likely it will be at a level you haven’t prepared for.
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I just wish they didn't fill up part of the tire well. Then I could add a spare on my own dime and have it permanenty located in an appropriate location.
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i was always aware of the risk and my insurance was a bottle of fix a flat and AAA.... clearly the AAA paid off..

I honestly don't believe a run flat wud have survived this puncture so regardless of having a flat this end result would have been the same.

I would never want to stick a spare in the trunk if it is not properly secured... and there is not space for that in our cars...
Do you not use BMW assist? They have always come through for me without having to deal with AAA and their shitty customer service.
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i was always aware of the risk and my insurance was a bottle of fix a flat and AAA.... clearly the AAA paid off..

I honestly don't believe a run flat wud have survived this puncture so regardless of having a flat this end result would have been the same.

I would never want to stick a spare in the trunk if it is not properly secured... and there is not space for that in our cars...
Do you not use BMW assist? They have always come through for me without having to deal with AAA and their shitty customer service.
BMW assist was discontinued for pre cli f30s...
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i was always aware of the risk and my insurance was a bottle of fix a flat and AAA.... clearly the AAA paid off..

I honestly don't believe a run flat wud have survived this puncture so regardless of having a flat this end result would have been the same.

I would never want to stick a spare in the trunk if it is not properly secured... and there is not space for that in our cars...
Do you not use BMW assist? They have always come through for me without having to deal with AAA and their shitty customer service.
Ive always had good luck with AAA.

What sort of fees are associated with BMW Assist? Assuming its not "free."
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Ive always had good luck with AAA.

What sort of fees are associated with BMW Assist? Assuming its not "free."
It's free for 5 years (in my case). Free tow to nearest dealership.
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It's free for 5 years (in my case). Free tow to nearest dealership.
2013 Cars long off warranty and free tow.

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Ive always had good luck with AAA.

What sort of fees are associated with BMW Assist? Assuming its not "free."
Geico cost me less than $10 a year.
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2013 Cars long off warranty and free tow.



Geico cost me less than $10 a year.
Hahaha right? My car is a 2013. Non-RF. Carry a compressor and patch kit and have AAA and realize that no matter what I might be fucked one day. I'm really good at chess and have only lost a few few times...but, one time I was checkmated in 4 moves. You never know.
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I was 70 miles away from home... no way I wud have made it..
I have a temporary spare, which I toss into the trunk whenever I'm going to be traveling out of town. I've got a can of fix-a-flat, a puncture repair kit, a pump and jack as well. Those who chose to ignore Murphy's Law sooner or later will suffer a major bite in the ass as a result.
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I was 70 miles away from home... no way I wud have made it..
I have a temporary spare, which I toss into the trunk whenever I'm going to be traveling out of town. I've got a can of fix-a-flat, a puncture repair kit, a pump and jack as well. Those who chose to ignore Murphy's Law sooner or later will suffer a major bite in the ass as a result.
Holy cow bill, how do you have room for luggage! Oh yeah, you have a GT

Im definitely asking for trouble at the moment as Im currently carrying nothing but a Heyco BMW tire iron... definitely need to pick up a can of fix a flat and a small compressor soon.
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Holy cow bill, how do you have room for luggage! Oh yeah, you have a GT

Im definitely asking for trouble at the moment as Im currently carrying nothing but a Heyco BMW tire iron... definitely need to pick up a can of fix a flat and a small compressor soon.
Definitely recommend doing that . It's not fool proof, as has already been pointed out, but it's definitely a smart thing to have in your car at all times. You'll never be totally safe unless you're carrying around a full size spare and all wheel/tire changing tools at all times, but the compressor and repair kit/fix-a-flat will be able to save you in probably 40% of roadside flat-tire situations.
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I keep a toolkit and full size spare strapped in the trunk. Yes this is a bit crazy, but to me it is far less stupid than not having a spare tire. I'm not messing around getting stuck somewhere waiting on AAA. One less thing giving me a headache. Good peace of mind.

Even with rft I'd rather have a spare in any case as they can completely blow out .. and rft are horrible tires and should never have been invented or sold.

I personally think it's a $$ deal made on the golf course with a rubber company or something. "This is all one big conspiracy!"
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Excuse my rant... but this whole no spare business is absolute BS...

On monday i drove over a ceramic shard that punctured through my right rear tire.

Yes I had non-runflats but no run flat would have survived this puncture. The puncture was two inches long from what it looks to be a roof tile of some sort and to top it off i was 70 miles away from home... i then had to be towed back home and my car has been sitting since I have to special order my 255/35/19 tire... what an absolute shit show...

Why did bmw think runflat tires would be smarter than adding a spare in the trunk???
Although I agree I'd rather have a spare than runflats, you bought a car with runflats--and then put on go-flats without a spare. So there's that. You have no standing to rant. You put on go flats, then you are buying into the "Well I have roadside assistance" theory.

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I was 70 miles away from home... no way I wud have made it..
not sure?! What does that mean?

I drove on punctured/gash RFT for over 200 miles and could have probably done 200 more. It was your decision to assume it would not work as intended...

But glad to hear you're safe
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It doesn't bother me as much as I thought it would. I actually got a flat 2 weeks after moving to non-RFT and had a bigger headache dealing with AAA than actually getting it fixed. Tire Rack gave me a free tire replacement under road hazard warranty and I drove my other car for the 2 days it took to arrive. In the grand scheme of things it was 30 min waiting for a tow truck vs 30 min swapping a spare tire. I don't make a habit of driving on spares anyway so the car would have been parked for a while regardless.
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Excuse my rant... but this whole no spare business is absolute BS...

On monday i drove over a ceramic shard that punctured through my right rear tire.

Yes I had non-runflats but no run flat would have survived this puncture. The puncture was two inches long from what it looks to be a roof tile of some sort and to top it off i was 70 miles away from home... i then had to be towed back home and my car has been sitting since I have to special order my 255/35/19 tire... what an absolute shit show...

Why did bmw think runflat tires would be smarter than adding a spare in the trunk???
So what stopped you from picking up a used tire and putting it in your trunk on a 5 year old car if you were so concerned about this prior to yesterday?

Or was your planning worse than BMW's?

Seems like it if you put non-rft on the vehicle with full knowledge this would happen with a flat.
i was always aware of the risk and my insurance was a bottle of fix a flat and AAA.... clearly the AAA paid off..

I honestly don't believe a run flat wud have survived this puncture so regardless of having a flat this end result would have been the same.

I would never want to stick a spare in the trunk if it is not properly secured... and there is not space for that in our cars...
Look for spare donut, not full sized tire.
It's slim and you can hold it in the trunk using bungee cords. I bought the kit for $339 couple of years ago. Tire wheel jack all in one.
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Although I am just as frustrated with no spare(especially in my E92 M3- no spare and no run flats!)....I have seen way too many life changing injuries from people who pull over on the side of the freeway to change a tire.....have seen too many lost lives or suffer life changing devastating injuries from being hit while changing a flat tire......all I know is that if I get a flat, I don’t care, I will drive in my expensive alloys rather than risk being hit.....Of course, some people do make dumb decisions.....hell, I’ve seen people stop in the fast lane to change a tire,..pretty amazing.....
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