Does the B58 440i have Active Sound?

blue dragon · 06-29-2018, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by RedKloud

Must be the MPPSK. There is a noticeable difference in sound in the Sport mode without ASD.

MPPSK option disables active sound. What you hear is what you actually have

Skyhigh · 06-29-2018, 07:56 AM

I am not so sure about that...
As far as I know MPPSK does not change anything regarding the ASD.
How do you know it is disabled? Can you see that in the coding?

oksymoroni · 06-29-2018, 08:55 AM

I coded my off with Bimmercode after I got my MPPSK installed. It was showing as active after the MPPSK install.

Didn't notice any difference to be honest. MPPSK is so loud it easily drowns out any minor sound difference with ASD active or not active.

Araemo · 06-29-2018, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by oksymoroni

I coded my off with Bimmercode after I got my MPPSK installed. It was showing as active after the MPPSK install.

Didn't notice any difference to be honest. MPPSK is so loud it easily drowns out any minor sound difference with ASD active or not active.

Yeah, but has anyone actually confirmed coding it off works on F30 LCI at all?

I have MPPSK, and I don't notice ANY difference when changing any of the coding 'documented' to turn off ASD. Is that because MPPSK really does disable it via the FDL coding? I don't know about that.

B58 parts · 06-29-2018, 03:30 PM

Can someone please post or link what the FDL coding actually is .. Thanks

Araemo · 06-29-2018, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by YuminNuman

Can someone please post or link what the FDL coding actually is .. Thanks

I'd love to see if theres one I haven't tried. when the b58 cars started coming out, it was reported that the old method of FDL coding to disable ASD (choosing an invalid chassis/engine combination, IIRC) doesn't change the sound noticeably, and I didn't notice anything when I tried that on mine. There's also an ASD input code on the HU module, and that didn't change anything for me either. I'm back to stock values in all applicable ASD codes, since they didn't seem to do anything for me.

simonelwell · 07-05-2018, 07:30 AM

I use a carly adapter and app - which modules / values do I need to change to turn ASD on or off?

thanks

Skyhigh · 07-05-2018, 07:54 AM

http://support.mycarly.com/knowledge...t-is-possible/

simonelwell · 07-06-2018, 03:15 PM

Just had the MPPSK installed - ASD most definitely on. Found the module to switch off and disabled it (Carly).

Araemo · 07-06-2018, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by simonelwell

Just had the MPPSK installed - ASD most definitely on. Found the module to switch off and disabled it (Carly).

How much of a difference do you hear?

rlmesq · 07-06-2018, 05:54 PM

ASD always reminded me of this thing.

IK6SPEED · 07-06-2018, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by rlmesq

ASD always reminded me of this thing.

Those who like ASD reliving their childhood and suppressed memory of this.

rlmesq · 07-06-2018, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by IK6SPEED

Those who like ASD reliving their childhood and suppressed memory of this.

I guess kids had a longer attention span 50+ years ago. It's a one minute commercial and they don't even show the product until you're halfway through.

IK6SPEED · 07-06-2018, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by rlmesq

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Originally Posted by IK6SPEED

Those who like ASD reliving their childhood and suppressed memory of this.

I guess kids had a longer attention span 50+ years ago. It's a one minute commercial and they don't even show the product until you're halfway through.

That's well documented.

Essentially 3 TV Channels and no internet.

simonelwell · 07-06-2018, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Araemo

How much of a difference do you hear?

A lot. In the cabin on the driveway when I got home the sound was noticeably louder than before the install and the difference even at idle between comfort and sport+ was huge.

Turning off ASD made the cabin a lot quieter. Whilst that's kind of the point of the MPPSK, I can still hear the great sound with the window open and even without it open (although not at idle). Just feels more authentic: ie I’m hearing the engine - not a fake noise.

Also still a significant difference between sport and comfort

Araemo · 07-07-2018, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by simonelwell

A lot. In the cabin on the driveway when I got home the sound was noticeably louder than before the install and the difference even at idle between comfort and sport+ was huge.

Turning off ASD made the cabin a lot quieter. Whilst that's kind of the point of the MPPSK, I can still hear the great sound with the window open and even without it open (although not at idle). Just feels more authentic: ie I’m hearing the engine - not a fake noise.

Also still a significant difference between sport and comfort

Interesting - cause when I disabled ASD via e-sys, I heard no difference. I wonder what carly does differently.

simonelwell · 07-09-2018, 04:57 PM

I noticed there were ASD modes and volume settings in the coding options too... could it be that the US default set up is different from UK?

Araemo · 07-09-2018, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by simonelwell

I noticed there were ASD modes and volume settings in the coding options too... could it be that the US default set up is different from UK?

More than likely - this kind of thing is very likely to be talked about in specific marketing departments.

And e-sys definitely applies different defaults to different cars based on region/chassis code/etc.

Juice247 · 10-29-2019, 12:38 AM

Bringing this thread back since I just made this change.

MPPSK installed 4 days ago. Sounds great driving the past couple days, but I don't like the concept of ASD, so I turned it off today. Here's my observations (all in Sport Mode, BTW):

The cabin is noticeably quieter at sub 1800 RPM cruising speeds. Not only that, but the subtleties of the exhaust come through better. ASD does not pipe in actual live sound, so when MPPSK burbles and rumbles, it is hidden behind the drone of ASD. Yes, if you don't really listen for the details, ASD sounds like a good idea as the cabin is a bit more... full..., but specifically when MPPSK is installed, it hides some of what you paid for, and the B58 sounds amazing. I'll know more after a long day on the road tomorrow, but as of now, ASD is staying off.

Araemo · 11-01-2019, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Juice247

Bringing this thread back since I just made this change.

MPPSK installed 4 days ago. Sounds great driving the past couple days, but I don't like the concept of ASD, so I turned it off today. Here's my observations (all in Sport Mode, BTW):

The cabin is noticeably quieter at sub 1800 RPM cruising speeds. Not only that, but the subtleties of the exhaust come through better. ASD does not pipe in actual live sound, so when MPPSK burbles and rumbles, it is hidden behind the drone of ASD. Yes, if you don't really listen for the details, ASD sounds like a good idea as the cabin is a bit more... full..., but specifically when MPPSK is installed, it hides some of what you paid for, and the B58 sounds amazing. I'll know more after a long day on the road tomorrow, but as of now, ASD is staying off.

What method did you use to 'turn it off'? The coding tricks I found previously didn't make any noticeable difference for me.

Skyhigh · 11-02-2019, 12:39 AM

Turning it off by coding does make a difference (it is then off).

johnung · 11-06-2019, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by simonelwell

I noticed there were ASD modes and volume settings in the coding options too... could it be that the US default set up is different from UK?

I bought a harness from Technicpnp in Florida to cut out the ASD. Guys I've read have reported issues with coding it out where they claim to still hear different sounds so I wanted to be sure it was physically gone. Removing it causes a CEL so a harness cutout is best. ($55)

My dealer ran my VIN twice and swore that my car had ASD. I took out my trunk panels on the left side to reveal my H/K amplifier (2015 335) but there was no ASD. Technicpnp said that they haven't come across a 3-series in the US that has an ASD, but they have seen them on 3-series in Europe.

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