[EstorilMSport]

Originally Posted by ZM2

IDK man, the timing looks pretty gnarly once you’re up into 4th.

Might have been tq limiter messing with things. This was pre-xhp

[ZM2]

Originally Posted by EstorilMSport

Might have been tq limiter messing with things. This was pre-xhp

Gotcha. I’d get some new 4/5th gear logs just to confirm and peace of mind.

[EstorilMSport]

Originally Posted by ZM2

Gotcha. I’d get some new 4/5th gear logs just to confirm and peace of mind.

The dyno logs were after this so I think it got cleaned up. I haven't messed with power mods in a while (close to two years) and no issues. Honestly not sure how much longer I'll have the car at this point. Been a little bored with it lately minus road track time. Not convinced I want to invest in PS2 plus hpfp.

[5w20]

Originally Posted by EstorilMSport

Might have been tq limiter messing with things. This was pre-xhp

Just to clarify, both the dyno and 1/4 mile runs were on the stock fuel system but with a custom tune and not an OTS map correct?

[EstorilMSport]

Originally Posted by 5w20

Just to clarify, both the dyno and 1/4 mile runs were on the stock fuel system but with a custom tune and not an OTS map correct?

That's correct. Stock turbo, stock hpfp, stock lpfp.

[thejeremyman9]

Originally Posted by Phantom10R

what turbo?

I don't get how you're hitting boost targets at 6500rpm

What do you mean? His boost targets are only 15-16.5 psi and actual MAP is around 16psi. That within what a stock EWG FBO cat with catless DPs can hold to redline. Some other custom tunes push even higher, but they may trail down to around the same value. There appears to be even a little more turbo headroom, especially in the higher gears with more load, since WGDC isnt excessively high. The boost targets are modest because its an ethanol tune with stock HPFP. The BM3 stage 2+ E30 maps are targeting 20+ psi and although we still need some f3x stock turbo logs, the M2 logs are showing people holding 19+psi to redline with stock EWG turbo (perhaps manifold at play, need those f3x logs).

[FastF30]

Never gonna get a clean 4th gear pull am I ...lol.... well when you put it on VD and smooth 6 which is averaging the Hp the best over the whole range you get 382whp.... Jeremy and I are getting 400whp for your reference... try to get me a clean 4th gear pull...

[thejeremyman9]

Originally Posted by EstorilMSport

Might have been tq limiter messing with things. This was pre-xhp

It shouldnt be torque limits. Those would close throttle and pull timing evenly across all cylinders. Also, 3rd and 6th would likely have the only torque limits that you would hit with this level of power, and theres no throttle closure in 3rd. The timing corrections in the higher gears are likely just due to octane limitations and the quite aggressive timing targets on the tune, combined with the fact that everything is getting hot by that duration into the run.

[FastF30]

Originally Posted by EstorilMSport

That's correct. Stock turbo, stock hpfp, stock lpfp.

Great times!

[thejeremyman9]

Originally Posted by FastF30

Never gonna get a clean 4th gear pull am I ...lol.... well when you put it on VD and smooth 6 which is averaging the Hp the best over the whole range you get 382whp.... Jeremy and I are getting 400whp for your reference... try to get me a clean 4th gear pull...

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He has a different car, you would need to update parameters. Even then, its difficult to compare across cars with VD. It's mostly only useful for back to back logs on the same car under very similar conditions controlling for as many variables as possible. Also, im not getting 400whp in my VD.

[FastF30]

Originally Posted by EstorilMSport

That's correct. Stock turbo, stock hpfp, stock lpfp.

Just noticed .... Your in Florida... Lol...lol...lol.... see everybody... best times are in Florida... they should make that there license plate saying.... lol...

[EstorilMSport]

Originally Posted by FastF30

Just noticed .... Your in Florida... Lol...lol...lol.... see everybody... best times are in Florida... they should make that there license plate saying.... lol...

Yeah when temps drop the time slips go with it...

[FastF30]

Originally Posted by thejeremyman9

He has a different car, you would need to update parameters. Even then, its difficult to compare across cars with VD. It's mostly only useful for back to back logs on the same car under very similar conditions controlling for as many variables as possible. Also, im not getting 400whp in my VD.

I used mine on his which would benefit his numbers... Oh that's right your manual... gotta make a profile for that one... his car is same as mine 335i xdrive Auto... plus he's in the magical place of Florida... only difference would be how much gas and how much he weighs but I accounted for a full tank and 160lbs for driver... don't think it's gonna be much different unless he weighs 260+ and that would only be a gain of 10whp...his peak on smooth 1 was 403 and smooth 2 was 394 .... so it's accurate enough compared to actual dyno... So my car is running good... now who would of thought...lol...

[EstorilMSport]

Originally Posted by FastF30

I used mine on his which would benefit his numbers... Oh that's right your manual... gotta make a profile for that one... his car is same as mine 335i xdrive Auto... plus he's in the magical place of Florida... only difference would be how much gas and how much he weighs but I accounted for a full tank and 160lbs for driver... don't think it's gonna be much different unless he weighs 260+ and that would only be a gain of 10whp...his peak on smooth 1 was 403 and smooth 2 was 394 .... so it's accurate enough compared to actual dyno... So my car is running good... now who would of thought...lol...

I'm 335i auto not x-drive

[FastF30]

Originally Posted by EstorilMSport

I'm 335i auto not x-drive

I subtracted 200 just to make it easy... now the numbers don't match the dyno..20Hp less.... where's that scratch your head emoji...

[FastF30]

Originally Posted by EstorilMSport

I'm 335i auto not x-drive

Guess I could add 200 to mine and then you'd be at your Dyno numbers and I'm at 420whp... I'm okay with that... lol...

[EstorilMSport]

Originally Posted by FastF30

Guess I could add 200 to mine and then you'd be at your Dyno numbers and I'm at 420whp... I'm okay with that... lol...

What exactly are we trying to confirm/dispel here? Virtual dyno is accurate/inaccurate? Why not jump on a dynojet and figure out what it's making?

[FastF30]

Originally Posted by EstorilMSport

What exactly are we trying to confirm/dispel here? Virtual dyno is accurate/inaccurate? Why not jump on a dynojet and figure out what it's making?

Basically just did... thanks... I wish the pandemic thing would end... I have a timeshare in orlando... love to go there this January.... Only time I wouldn't mind driving there so I could put this car on the strip there...

[FastF30]

Originally Posted by EstorilMSport

What exactly are we trying to confirm/dispel here? Virtual dyno is accurate/inaccurate? Why not jump on a dynojet and figure out what it's making?

Please try to get me that 4th gear pull... make sure at least 3500-6400+ rpm... I have a feeling your numbers will rise... I'd really really would appreciate it...

[lens]

Originally Posted by FastF30

I used mine on his which would benefit his numbers... Oh that's right your manual... gotta make a profile for that one... his car is same as mine 335i xdrive Auto... plus he's in the magical place of Florida... only difference would be how much gas and how much he weighs but I accounted for a full tank and 160lbs for driver... don't think it's gonna be much different unless he weighs 260+ and that would only be a gain of 10whp...his peak on smooth 1 was 403 and smooth 2 was 394 .... so it's accurate enough compared to actual dyno... So my car is running good... now who would of thought...lol...

Trap speed normally tells you how much power you make, his timing was pretty damn high at 16ish psi, which is why he's able to hit high 11s at 115mph+ if he has no WGDC or throttle closures then it makes sense.

[ZM2]

Originally Posted by EstorilMSport

What exactly are we trying to confirm/dispel here? Virtual dyno is accurate/inaccurate? Why not jump on a dynojet and figure out what it's making?

Agreed on this, and all the VD talk is taking this thread sideways. Altho, EstorilMSport kudos on a stout build all the way back to 2018-19!

To get us back on track, bolt an aftermarket HPFP onto an FBO stock turbo EWG N55, flash this map, and you’re at ~425whp. Add a PS2 after that, and you’re 500+ whp.

[FastF30]

Originally Posted by chaungo

Trap speed normally tells you how much power you make, his timing was pretty damn high at 16ish psi, which is why he's able to hit high 11s at 115mph+ if he has no WGDC or throttle closures then it makes sense.

100% agree and 100km-200km is even more accurate... 3750 is weight I used in calculator @ 117 with 14% driveline loss = 403whp... inline with dyno... here is calculator... ... Point is for me anyways is this is close enough on VD to tell me how my car is running...thank you for all the info... really appreciate it... I'll move it over to the VD thread...