VRSF N55 Downpipe

Herdofgreg · 12-19-2019, 12:00 AM

Looking to upgrade my downpipe on my 435i and have read much through the forum of people applauding the VRSF branding, is it the "Catless race DP" or "High Flow Catted DP'? Thanks for any feedback!

Mountain_Commando · 12-19-2019, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Herdofgreg

Looking to upgrade my downpipe on my 435i and have read much through the forum of people applauding the VRSF branding, is it the "Catless race DP" or "High Flow Catted DP'? Thanks for any feedback!

Hi OP.

I'm looking to do the EXACT same thing, and looks like you beat me to the thread by a couple hours haha

Is this the pipe you're considering?:
https://www.vr-speed.com/vrsf-cerami...2-f33-f88.html

$249 looks like a steal for a catted DP. Am I looking at the right pipe?

e38740imd · 12-19-2019, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mountain_Commando

Hi OP.

I'm looking to do the EXACT same thing, and looks like you beat me to the thread by a couple hours haha

Is this the pipe you're considering?:
https://www.vr-speed.com/vrsf-cerami...2-f33-f88.html

$249 looks like a steal for a catted DP. Am I looking at the right pipe?

249 is the price for the catless

399 is the price for the Catted high flow

mike@x-ph.com · 12-19-2019, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Mountain_Commando

Hi OP.

I'm looking to do the EXACT same thing, and looks like you beat me to the thread by a couple hours haha

Is this the pipe you're considering?:
https://www.vr-speed.com/vrsf-cerami...2-f33-f88.html

$249 looks like a steal for a catted DP. Am I looking at the right pipe?

its $249 for catless, $399 for catted.

Its cheaper if you get it from a vendor, some of us are having a sale till December 31st

Tpriest7893 · 12-19-2019, 02:02 PM

I vouch for the Catless I have stock exhaust and it defy brought out a little more tone and a little bit more throttle response.

The smell- not that bad. I only smell it if I stand behind my car at the exhaust tips, red lights and stuff I don't smell a thing.

CEL- tune takes it away, I am not tuned and the lights been on for two years no problems. (Tuning this month actually finally )

With stock exhaust you get some good burbles and pops with downshifts and stuff,
Only issue is emissions. I live in Florida so didn't need to worry.

Think that's about it

Herdofgreg · 12-19-2019, 02:53 PM

Yea I have the M Performance Exhaust on mine get lots of burble and everything already. Just looked for the state of Washington, emissions are no longer need Jan 1, 2020. Catless might be the move. What kind of tune gonna get?

thejeremyman9 · 12-19-2019, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Herdofgreg

Yea I have the M Performance Exhaust on mine get lots of burble and everything already. Just looked for the state of Washington, emissions are no longer need Jan 1, 2020. Catless might be the move. What kind of tune gonna get?

Just want to note that catless smell is highly subjective. Some people like it, some tolerate it, some hate it. If you have kids or drive family, coworkers, etc, i would recommend against it. Yes, it is the cheapest bang-for-the-buck but its definitely a noticable smell. I daily drove a catless car for 7 years so i know exactly what it is like.

mike@x-ph.com · 12-20-2019, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by thejeremyman9

Just want to note that catless smell is highly subjective. Some people like it, some tolerate it, some hate it. If you have kids or drive family, coworkers, etc, i would recommend against it. Yes, it is the cheapest bang-for-the-buck but its definitely a noticable smell. I daily drove a catless car for 7 years so i know exactly what it is like.

I agree with you about the smell being subjective. I dont even notice it but i have had people telling me its too much for them

Le-Blu · 12-20-2019, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

its $249 for catless, $399 for catted.

Its cheaper if you get it from a vendor, some of us are having a sale till December 31st

What are the details on the sale? I bought from you when I had my e90, looking into an f30 possibly next week, don't wanna miss a sale

mike@x-ph.com · 12-21-2019, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Le-Blu

What are the details on the sale? I bought from you when I had my e90, looking into an f30 possibly next week, don't wanna miss a sale

its 10% OFF + free shipping from most dealers.

Jake From State Farm · 12-21-2019, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by thejeremyman9

Just want to note that catless smell is highly subjective. Some people like it, some tolerate it, some hate it. If you have kids or drive family, coworkers, etc, i would recommend against it. Yes, it is the cheapest bang-for-the-buck but its definitely a noticable smell. I daily drove a catless car for 7 years so i know exactly what it is like.

Completely agree, I just ended up switching from catless to a Wagner catted dp. My wife and kids were always complaining about the smell. Performance difference is not noticeable, at least on the stock turbo.

Thanks to Mike for the nice sale price

mike@x-ph.com · 12-21-2019, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jake From State Farm

Completely agree, I just ended up switching from catless to a Wagner catted dp. My wife and kids were always complaining about the smell. Performance difference is not noticeable, at least on the stock turbo.

Thanks to Mike for the nice sale prices

My pleasure

mcsweeto · 12-21-2019, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

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Originally Posted by Le-Blu

What are the details on the sale? I bought from you when I had my e90, looking into an f30 possibly next week, don't wanna miss a sale

its 10% OFF + free shipping from most dealers.

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Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

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Originally Posted by Le-Blu

What are the details on the sale? I bought from you when I had my e90, looking into an f30 possibly next week, don't wanna miss a sale

its 10% OFF + free shipping from most dealers.

Mike,

I'm in the market for the 4" VRSF catless but it might be just after the New Year. Can I expect this price to hold?

-Z

mike@x-ph.com · 12-21-2019, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mcsweeto

Mike,

I'm in the market for the 4" VRSF catless but it might be just after the New Year. Can I expect this price to hold?

-Z

unfortunately it will end January 1st

mcsweeto · 12-22-2019, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

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Originally Posted by mcsweeto

Mike,

I'm in the market for the 4" VRSF catless but it might be just after the New Year. Can I expect this price to hold?

-Z

unfortunately it will end January 1st

We'll then, order placed!

mike@x-ph.com · 12-22-2019, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by mcsweeto

We'll then, order placed!

Congrats!!

Tommix · 12-23-2019, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Herdofgreg

Looking to upgrade my downpipe on my 435i and have read much through the forum of people applauding the VRSF branding, is it the "Catless race DP" or "High Flow Catted DP'? Thanks for any feedback!

Do you really want your car smells like old car from year - 80?
You will get same ~ whp whit 200 cel race cat so why catless?

n55david · 12-23-2019, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Tommix

Do you really want your car smells like old car from year - 80?
You will get same ~ whp whit 200 cel race cat so why catless?

false premise.

Youre car will smell fine, sound better and have a higher achievable level of power.

thejeremyman9 · 12-23-2019, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Phantom10R

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Originally Posted by Tommix

Do you really want your car smells like old car from year - 80?
You will get same ~ whp whit 200 cel race cat so why catless?

false premise.

Youre car will smell fine, sound better and have a higher achievable level of power.

Not to argue, but the smell is subjective, the sound is subjective, and the higher achievable level of power does not really apply to a stock turbo FBO car. A good catted DP will make basically the same power as catless, certainly within how the margin of how much your butt dyno can feel.

I somewhat agree that the car won't smell like a car from the 80s because the fuel control is much more precise, so it's not like a old carbureted car. However, i think the point here is that the car will certainly smell more like fuel and fumes than the stock car, so it's something to be aware of when weighing options (especially with kids/family etc as i mentioned above). For the sound, yeah most will agree the change in volume and tone is nice, but there are also those that don't like the rasp of being catless, especially paired with some aftermarket exhausts.

So my advice for OP or those in the market for a DP - do your research. If you are on the fence then a cheap catless like VRSF on sale may the worth the $250 experiment to see if you want to deal with the smell and like the sound. If not, get a catted, or just get the catted from the get-go. I just installed my fabspeed catted over the weekend and yes it is expensive but I have no regrets.

Korvo · 12-24-2019, 04:20 PM

My catted DP smells too. Consider that!

thejeremyman9 · 12-24-2019, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by pdegene

My catted DP smells too. Consider that!

Imagine how a catless would be for you then

FWIW my fabspeed has zero smell. Infact cold starts seem to be even less smell than stock; perhaps it reaches its efficient operating temp quicker since it uses a different type of catalyst.

Randy Johnson · 12-26-2019, 12:56 PM

I rode a few different sport bikes up to 2006. The last one was a jetted and pipe and the sound and smell were visceral. Any time I hear or smell a sport bike it brings back fond memories.

I previously owned a Acura TL and a Infiniti G37. I swapped out the cats on both cars for straight pipes. Both smelled horrible and I ended up going back to stock.

With the BMW I knew right away I was not going to go catless from previous experience. I am very satisfied with my VRSF catted downpipe. I don't notice a smell and it is only slightly louder than stock.

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Herdofgreg New Member 3 Rep 17 Posts Drives: 2015 BMW 435i Gran Coupe Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Tacoma iTrader: (0)	VRSF N55 Downpipe Looking to upgrade my downpipe on my 435i and have read much through the forum of people applauding the VRSF branding, is it the "Catless race DP" or "High Flow Catted DP'? Thanks for any feedback!
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Tpriest7893 Captain 215 Rep 819 Posts Drives: Bmw 335i f30 N55 ( sold) Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Venice Florida iTrader: (0) Garage List [0.00] 2012 bmw 335 [0.00] 02 2002 m3 Vert [0.00]	I vouch for the Catless I have stock exhaust and it defy brought out a little more tone and a little bit more throttle response. The smell- not that bad. I only smell it if I stand behind my car at the exhaust tips, red lights and stuff I don't smell a thing. CEL- tune takes it away, I am not tuned and the lights been on for two years no problems. (Tuning this month actually finally ) With stock exhaust you get some good burbles and pops with downshifts and stuff, Only issue is emissions. I live in Florida so didn't need to worry. Think that's about it __________________ 2012 bmw 335i sedan VRSF catless DP VRSF 5? HD IC Stock intake(had open before and was sick of noise) BMS CP 550i 351m rims with 275/245 set up. No tune as of yet.
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Herdofgreg New Member 3 Rep 17 Posts Drives: 2015 BMW 435i Gran Coupe Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Tacoma iTrader: (0)	Yea I have the M Performance Exhaust on mine get lots of burble and everything already. Just looked for the state of Washington, emissions are no longer need Jan 1, 2020. Catless might be the move. What kind of tune gonna get?
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Korvo Respect My Authoritah 368 Rep 873 Posts Drives: 2014 335i M-Sport Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Minneapolis, MN iTrader: (2)	My catted DP smells too. Consider that! __________________ 2014 335xi M-Sport 6MT: Estoril Blue II, MHD Stage 2+ , Dinan Exhaust, Dinan CAI, ER Catted DP, ER Chargepipe, AA FMIC.
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Randy Johnson M340i 392 Rep 967 Posts Drives: BMW M340i Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: South FLA iTrader: (1) Garage List 2021 BMW M340i [10.00]	I rode a few different sport bikes up to 2006. The last one was a jetted and pipe and the sound and smell were visceral. Any time I hear or smell a sport bike it brings back fond memories. I previously owned a Acura TL and a Infiniti G37. I swapped out the cats on both cars for straight pipes. Both smelled horrible and I ended up going back to stock. With the BMW I knew right away I was not going to go catless from previous experience. I am very satisfied with my VRSF catted downpipe. I don't notice a smell and it is only slightly louder than stock.
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