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      09-09-2019, 11:49 AM   #89
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I'm not arguing for Vettel's contract being terminated or suggesting that it's a valid option. His mistake's for the past two seasons have caused many fans to question whether he will continue racing past this year. Most recently people have been calling for him to be fired. My response was merely to point out why it wouldn't happen. These suggestions have been so persistent that a few sites have gone on to point out exactly why it wouldn't happen.

For the record, I personally think there's no reason for anyone to suggest his contract would be terminated and another driver would be found as his replacement. He may be making mistakes, but it's not as black and white as "he's just lost it". As you said, Binotto is fully aware of what the situation looks like and supports both drivers.
I may have misunderstood you! Sorry! And as you said, Binotto fully supports Seb and he said a million times before, Vettel is important in developing the car and they will give him the car he needs.

A friend posted a picture she took in front of the factory, all signs of celebration removed except for a flag that said Forza Vettel.
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I may have misunderstood you! Sorry! And as you said, Binotto fully supports Seb and he said a million times before, Vettel is important in developing the car and they will give him the car he needs.

A friend posted a picture she took in front of the factory, all signs of celebration removed except for a flag that said Forza Vettel.
No worries! The thing about forums is its hard to properly get a point across in a way that accurately reflects one's feelings. Still fun though talking about these things in detail with fellow fans
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Binotto's recent comments doesnt look like he s fully supporting Vettel.. he keeps repeating that its a shame.. and for the sacking from Ferrari part.. it is possible.. Ferrari did such things in the past.. Prost.. Prost was sacked cause he was criticizing Ferrari on public with no win year..

and for the part if Vettel seen Stroll.. even if im not a Vettel fan there is no point for him to wait and let the team guide him.. its normal that he wants to rush back in the track.. not at the beginning but when Stroll was getting closer he was in Vettel's sight in chose to keep rolling and making the gap even more narrow until the contact.. if you take a closer look to 0.07 in the video you can see it clearly.. his face clear faces towards Stroll.. the one that has no idea about the traffic was Stroll.. and he got a penalty as well.. decision was fair for him, a lighter penalty.. recent F1 cars covers around drivers head thats true ever than before.. but after some point he has seen Stroll clearly..

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Binotto's recent comments doesnt look like he s fully supporting Vettel.. he keeps repeating that its a shame.. and for the sacking from Ferrari part.. it is possible.. Ferrari did such things in the past.. Prost.. Prost was sacked cause he was criticizing Ferrari on public with no win year..

and for the part if Vettel seen Stroll.. even if im not a Vettel fan there is no point for him to wait and let the team guide him.. its normal that he wants to rush back in the track.. not at the beginning but when Stroll was getting closer he was in Vettel's sight in chose to keep rolling and making the gap even more narrow until the contact.. if you take a closer look to 0.07 in the video you can see it clearly.. his face clear faces towards Stroll.. the one that has no idea about the traffic was Stroll.. and he got a penalty as well.. decision was fair for him, a lighter penalty.. recent F1 cars covers around drivers head thats true ever than before.. but after some point he has seen Stroll clearly..

Prost wasn't just criticizing, he was talking shit about everyone from mechanics all the way too the Ferrari family. Alonso also was talking shit about the team and about Montezemolo. Vettel never did and will never criticize his dream team, that's why he won't be sacked.

Edit: Vettel and Elkann are actually buddies. Elkann and Vettel spend a lot of time together in Switzerland.

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My mind is already fast forwarding to Marina Bay circuit and who will be king of the fast curves. Hamilton called for more power at Monza but that won't be the answer there.
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My mind is already fast forwarding to Marina Bay circuit and who will be king of the fast curves. Hamilton called for more power at Monza but that won't be the answer there.
I reckon a RB win is very likely there. Merc will probably end up 2nd fastest with Ferrari 3rd.
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Singapore is going to be terrible for Ferrari. I think McLaren will be good there too. As a Ferrari and a (hit rock bottom) Vettel fan I think I'm going to sit that one out and go out have breakfast with my wife.
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Prost wasn't just criticizing, he was talking shit about everyone from mechanics all the way too the Ferrari family. Alonso also was talking shit about the team and about Montezemolo. Vettel never did and will never criticize his dream team, that's why he won't be sacked.

Edit: Vettel and Elkann are actually buddies. Elkann and Vettel spend a lot of time together in Switzerland.
i dont understand what makes this certain..
world ll keep spinning if he ll be sacked or not.. only thing im sure about Ferrari that human relations go up and down pretty fast.. if you dont agree.. no one is forcing you to think differently.. take it easy..
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I reckon a RB win is very likely there. Merc will probably end up 2nd fastest with Ferrari 3rd.
MAX in his latest interview and also in *La Gazzetta dello Sport*

In Dutch (sorry guys) please use Google-Translate => https://www.gptoday.net/nl/nieuws/f1...te-auto-hebben

According MAX (in short) :

*Ik zou zeggen dat ik in de snelste auto wil rijden. Als dat een rode auto is, dan zou ik daar graag in willen rijden*
"Ik wil alleen naar Ferrari als ze de beste auto hebben"
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MAX in his latest interview and also in *La Gazzetta dello Sport*

In Dutch (sorry guys) please use Google-Translate => https://www.gptoday.net/nl/nieuws/f1...te-auto-hebben

According MAX (in short) :

*Ik zou zeggen dat ik in de snelste auto wil rijden. Als dat een rode auto is, dan zou ik daar graag in willen rijden*
"Ik wil alleen naar Ferrari als ze de beste auto hebben"
if the translation was right i started to feel like Max tends to leave Red Bull right on the moment he finds a better chance without hesitation.. Horner certainly d like to keep him in the team though there is not much options these days for Max for another seat.. a better seat..
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I reckon a RB win is very likely there. Merc will probably end up 2nd fastest with Ferrari 3rd.
You could be right,a Max win could be on the cards if he grabs pole.
2nd? A steely Charles can outfox Lewis again with Seb mixing it with Valeri and Albion.
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MAX in his latest interview and also in *La Gazzetta dello Sport*

In Dutch (sorry guys) please use Google-Translate => https://www.gptoday.net/nl/nieuws/f1...te-auto-hebben

According MAX (in short) :

*Ik zou zeggen dat ik in de snelste auto wil rijden. Als dat een rode auto is, dan zou ik daar graag in willen rijden*
"Ik wil alleen naar Ferrari als ze de beste auto hebben"
Ha!
I understood that
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if the translation was right i started to feel like Max tends to leave Red Bull right on the moment he finds a better chance without hesitation.. Horner certainly d like to keep him in the team though there is not much options these days for Max for another seat.. a better seat..
Spot on.

Verstappen is only at RB at the moment, because there are no seats available at Merc or Ferrari. The moment his contract expire, you can bet your bottom dollar he will make the move to wherever he chooses. Every team boss would be after his signature, and somehow I think Ferarri would ultimately win.

All of these of course, depends on the competitiveness of RB at that stage.
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Singapore is going to be terrible for Ferrari. I think McLaren will be good there too. As a Ferrari and a (hit rock bottom) Vettel fan I think I'm going to sit that one out and go out have breakfast with my wife.
That is going to be one helluva breakfast then.
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Singapore is going to be terrible for Ferrari. I think McLaren will be good there too. As a Ferrari and a (hit rock bottom) Vettel fan I think I'm going to sit that one out and go out have breakfast with my wife.
I lost count of the times I said that and ended up watching GP.
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if the translation was right i started to feel like Max tends to leave Red Bull right on the moment he finds a better chance without hesitation.. Horner certainly d like to keep him in the team though there is not much options these days for Max for another seat.. a better seat..
Horner would 5H1T in his own pants . On the other hand , money can buy everything ...

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Ha!
I understood that
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Horner would 5H1T in his own pants . On the other hand , money can buy everything ...

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I tell you, it's even more impressive to see what Lewis does on a race by race basis when you see the amount of money he's making. It takes a special kind of person to put in that type of dedication and commitment even when making that insane amount of money (that doesn't even include endorsements wow!). To see him still pushing and taking chances when he's set for multiple lifetimes financially is extremely impressive. The guy has done it all, has it all, and is still completely relentless and shooting for gaps that barely exist.

If only all of our spoiled rotten sports "stars" in America with their obscene guaranteed long term contracts were the same as Lewis.
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I tell you, it's even more impressive to see what Lewis does on a race by race basis when you see the amount of money he's making. It takes a special kind of person to put in that type of dedication and commitment even when making that insane amount of money (that doesn't even include endorsements wow!). To see him still pushing and taking chances when he's set for multiple lifetimes financially is extremely impressive. The guy has done it all, has it all, and is still completely relentless and shooting for gaps that barely exist.

If only all of our spoiled rotten sports "stars" in America with their obscene guaranteed long term contracts were the same as Lewis.
Yep . I agree . Racing driver is a combination from man and machine in action . Both must be perfect, the whole season long to become a F1 World Champion .
Lewis has done this 5 times . Soon 6 times ...

Earlier today I was reading a new interview from MAX . He said the second place on a podium is for a loser ...

Money is not everything for these guys . But it's really nice to have it
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Ferrari should dump Vettel at the end of the season, and give Alonso one final hurrah.

I can't believe how much Vettel has dropped off, what a decline.
Many people would say no to this, for many reasons.....

BUT, I'm with you 100 percent.
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Can't deny that LH is at the top of his game and something takes over when he pushes, not even Valtteri can match that and quite keep up with him.Certainly Seb is feeling the after effects of it!
Question now is can Lewis take on new guy on the block Charles with his solid demeanour and his seemingly perfect Ferrari package.
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F1 posted an interesting video on Instagram showing that Leclerc's gain from the tow is 0.131 second on the back straight only. The difference between their lap times is 0.15 second. This should be enough to show that if Vettel got a tow he would've been on pole. The guy didn't lose it. He's under tremendous pressure. (As Matt Galagher said: I'm not a fanboy, just passionate).
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