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      08-27-2023, 07:24 PM   #1
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is a upgraded turbo outlet pipe needed if im getting a upgraded charge pipe

As the title states, im going to upgrade my charge pipe due to it developing a slight boost leak barely before 24 hours tuned lol. as stated im going to upgrade my intercooler as well but while looking at the option (in the photo) it shows an option for a turbo outlet pipe, I was wondering is a turbo outlet pipe needed or not?
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      08-28-2023, 10:15 AM   #2
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Not needed, but if you are ever going to do the TIC pipe, the labor overlaps with IC, so now would be the time to do it.
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As the title states, im going to upgrade my charge pipe due to it developing a slight boost leak barely before 24 hours tuned lol. as stated im going to upgrade my intercooler as well but while looking at the option (in the photo) it shows an option for a turbo outlet pipe, I was wondering is a turbo outlet pipe needed or not?
You don’t say which engine. That IC is nothing special. IMO get a MAD Race Intercooler and an FTP charge pipe/ boost pipe kit. It’s the best combination of performance, reliability, parts price and labor price if you do them all at once.

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Not needed, but if you are ever going to do the TIC pipe, the labor overlaps with IC, so now would be the time to do it.
+1
might as well do the rest while everything is apart. i'd get the turbo inlet/intake pipe and the turbosmart diverter valve done as well.
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You don’t say which engine. That IC is nothing special. IMO get a MAD Race Intercooler and an FTP charge pipe/ boost pipe kit. It’s the best combination of performance, reliability, parts price and labor price if you do them all at once.

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Did you get yours installed yet?
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Did you get yours installed yet?
Yes, my MAD Race Intercooler was installed. A quick log that I did looked promising. But then I had stock EKP overheating issues that I just solved with a Stage2 EKPM3 from ET3 Design.

Just filled up with E85 minutes ago. Expecting super hot weather in the 90’s next week. I want to collect some logs with high ambient temperature on E85 with Bootmod3 FlexFuel MultiMap Stage2+ tune from 1st through 5th gears. That’s about the most stress my car with a stock N55 EWG turbo can generate for an intercooler.
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Yes, my MAD Race Intercooler was installed. A quick log that I did looked promising. But then I had stock EKP overheating issues that I just solved with a Stage2 EKPM3 from ET3 Design.

Just filled up with E85 minutes ago. Expecting super hot weather in the 90’s next week. I want to collect some logs with high ambient temperature on E85 with Bootmod3 FlexFuel MultiMap Stage2+ tune from 1st through 5th gears. That’s about the most stress my car with a stock N55 EWG turbo can generate for an intercooler.
Logs or it didn't happen.
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Sorry for asking but What is turbo outlet pipe?
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      08-29-2023, 02:41 PM   #10
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IMO get a MAD Race Intercooler and an FTP charge pipe/ boost pipe kit.
Do you have this exact combo? I have FTP pipes already and am thinking about swapping from my VRSF to the MAD race... want to confirm no fitment issues with this combo.
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Sorry for asking but What is turbo outlet pipe?
It's also called the Boost pipe and turbo to intercooler pipe - it fits on the other side of the intercooler.
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Do you have this exact combo? I have FTP pipes already and am thinking about swapping from my VRSF to the MAD race... want to confirm no fitment issues with this combo.
VRSF 5'' to Mad Race? Just clarifying cause the VRSF Race and MAD Race appear to be identical so there would be no change between those two.
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As the title states, im going to upgrade my charge pipe due to it developing a slight boost leak barely before 24 hours tuned lol. as stated im going to upgrade my intercooler as well but while looking at the option (in the photo) it shows an option for a turbo outlet pipe, I was wondering is a turbo outlet pipe needed or not?
AtyL Just to circle back and simplify in case the follow up discussion was confusing:

1. Bare minimum would be do IC+CP combo.
1a. The IC+CP you posted isnt very common, and a potentially better/cost effective option to consider is the Mad Race IC and FTP CP.

2. If you want to "do it while you are in there", you can consider installing the TIC (aka boost pipe aka turbo to intercooler pipe) at the same time. FTP also makes one of these i believe.

3. Similarly, if you have the TIC out, its easier to install a turbo inlet and/or DV upgrade. Personally, i would highly recommend a turbo inlet no matter what else you do - get the CTS or MST v2 (they are identical designs). I am still stock DV, but if you are going to do a DV, it requires removing the turbo inlet so once again labor overlap.

You can see how this easily snowballs, so just decide how far you want to go with your budget.
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VRSF 5'' to Mad Race? Just clarifying cause the VRSF Race and MAD Race appear to be identical so there would be no change between those two.
Yes, 5" not the race. Mine is old and beat up, figured I would step up to a race IC.
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It's also called the Boost pipe and turbo to intercooler pipe - it fits on the other side of the intercooler.
Ah okay. I already replaced mine. The turbo inlet is from intake to turbo?
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Ah okay. I already replaced mine. The turbo inlet is from intake to turbo?
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Do you have this exact combo? I have FTP pipes already and am thinking about swapping from my VRSF to the MAD race... want to confirm no fitment issues with this combo.
My boost pipe is FTP and CP is an Evolution Raceworks
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Yes, 5" not the race. Mine is old and beat up, figured I would step up to a race IC.
I went from VRSF 5'' HD to VRSF race, which would be an equivalent change, and it was definitely worth it.

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