F1 Season 2022

winther1 · 03-21-2022, 10:07 AM

Awesome to finally see Ferrari back in form!
And happy to see Magnussen stepping up - 2 weeks ago he was on a beach in Miami thinking his F1 career was over. Those Haas cars look fast!

DaveA · 03-22-2022, 09:08 AM

I just made the mistake of venturing into the "professional motorsport" area of the forums... It's like some awful version of hell where everybody is desperately trying to outdo each other with their "knowledge" and "insight"... All using the rather daft acronyms that F1 has adopted as its "lingo" (even if you are within F1, it sounds twee)... I looks like a bear pit to get involved with...

SteveChester · 03-22-2022, 10:15 AM

Predictions for Saudi this weekend? The RB looked quick in a straight line so might favour them over Ferrari….

Can't see Merc making any progress until they make a few new parts and get on top of the issues.

SteveChester · 03-26-2022, 02:54 PM

Interesting quali….

Honestly thought Ferrari had the pace to beat Red Bull.

Early bath for Lewis as well

DaveA · 03-27-2022, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveChester

Interesting quali….

Honestly thought Ferrari had the pace to beat Red Bull.

One thing that seems to becoming clear is that the Red Bull seems more critical on setup than the Ferrari... I think I heard Max yesterday describe it as "digital"... on or off.. and I suspect the Merc (and some others) are similar, but at a lower level of performance than the Red Bull...

Ferrari seem up on RB in sectors 1 and 3, which is about the handling rather than the straight line speed, I believe... Especially sector 1... which makes me wonder if Ferrari have the best engine and so can run more downforce (wing) overall than RB... and power through the drag...

These cars appear to have fine margins...

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Originally Posted by SteveChester

Early bath for Lewis as well

Ach, surely you cannot be happy about the misfortunes of a driver like LH..? I mean, I get that folk may not be fans etc, but he's way good enough to put any car on pole if it is capable of being anywhere near pole... and we can all at least respect his talent...

Tengocity · 03-27-2022, 01:31 PM

Verstappen appear to have overtaken Horner as the world's biggest whinger. He moans at his team, he moans about every driver on the track.

SteveChester · 03-27-2022, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Tengocity

Verstappen appear to have overtaken Horner as the world's biggest whinger. He moans at his team, he moans about every driver on the track.

Yep he has really taken on a new, even worse personality than last year!

Interesting race though - exciting racing this year the cars do seem to be able to follow and race more cleanly.

Great battle inbetween Ocon and Alonso - thought it was going to end in tears!

SteveChester · 03-27-2022, 03:48 PM

Also in Max's defence he has actually in the first two races raced people fair and clean - certainly so far none of the crazy stuff from last year.

stefan4 · 03-28-2022, 05:43 AM

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Also in Max's defence he has actually in the first two races raced people fair and clean - certainly so far none of the crazy stuff from last year.

I think because the cars can follow moves are a lot less do or die and they can afford to be a bit more patient. And they don't need to be sooo robust on the defence either. I think we're seeing this up and down the grid tbh.

Also I think Max's driving style was even more pronounced last season because of the intensity of the battle, the opportunity he faced, the ferocious competition in Hamilton and Mercedes and the fact that ultimately, Merc had a better car, certainly for the second half of the season.

No doubt, these cars are a far far better platform and I'm looking forward to the day we can say goodbye to the 'push to pass' drs that was always a sticking plaster over a fundamental issue.

SteveChester · 03-28-2022, 05:47 AM

Agree - not a fan of DRS either.

DB118D · 03-28-2022, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Tengocity

Verstappen appear to have overtaken Horner as the world's biggest whinger. He moans at his team, he moans about every driver on the track.

That's what happens when you spend years listening to Hamilton complain about everything and anything over the radio

DB118D · 03-28-2022, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DaveA

Ach, surely you cannot be happy about the misfortunes of a driver like LH..? I mean, I get that folk may not be fans etc, but he's way good enough to put any car on pole if it is capable of being anywhere near pole... and we can all at least respect his talent...

Absolutely respect his talent and his racing abilities. It's also OK not to like him as a person

isleaiw1 · 03-28-2022, 06:04 AM

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Absolutely respect his talent and his racing abilities. It's also OK not to like him as a person

I have never met him so couldnt comment on him as a person, and of course no one would form an opinion of someone as a person based on what the media say.... would they?

gr4z · 03-28-2022, 07:54 AM

I have taken on the moto of 'anyone but Max'. So let's hope Ferrari continue their climb and build a sizeable lead or better still Perez beats Max.

DaveA · 03-28-2022, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by DB118D

Absolutely respect his talent and his racing abilities. It's also OK not to like him as a person

Do you know him as a person...?

I get that some folk don't seem to like him and/or his team... and, of course, that's their prerogative... but I think there is a difference between disliking what little you see of somebody's personality in these sorts of environments, and then taking some form of pleasure from their misfortune (as some seem to do - and I am not suggesting the original post I responded to here was so doing...)...

Reading some of the sheer hatred and vitriol that is posted freely about somebody like LH it seems that some people do take a delight in his misfortune and do seem to think that he should somehow fit into how they think he should be as a person, rather than be the person whom he wants to be... and I think that is a rather sad state of affairs...

... and that's not even factoring in the racist element of some of his detractors...

DaveA · 03-28-2022, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveChester

Also in Max's defence he has actually in the first two races raced people fair and clean - certainly so far none of the crazy stuff from last year.

I have noticed this, also.. and not only Max, it seems to be a thing up and down the grid...

Makes me wonder how much of what went in pervious years was down to the "one shot" nature of overtaking that the last regulations ended up presenting... Having to drop back after a lap or so following because you were overheating meant that if you did not get it done that first time, you may not get the opportunity again... Now we are seeing the battles unfold over 3, 4, 5, more laps...

Watching Max work out how to pass Leclerc yesterday was really quite interesting... and he did the job well...

DaveA · 03-28-2022, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Tengocity

Verstappen appear to have overtaken Horner as the world's biggest whinger. He moans at his team, he moans about every driver on the track.

I think the broadcast team need to just stop transmitting it... He can moan to his team to his hearts content, then, and we don't get to be listening in...

This is one of the things creeping in that I don't like... this kind of Netflix desire to create everything into some sort of polarised confrontation... it is unnecessary, and lazy sensationalism...

DB118D · 03-28-2022, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by isleaiw1

I have never met him so couldnt comment on him as a person, and of course no one would form an opinion of someone as a person based on what the media say.... would they?

More what he says himself in the media. I just find his whole persona to be false.

JustChris · 03-28-2022, 02:18 PM

How good are the in helmet cameras.

SteveChester · 03-28-2022, 02:58 PM

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How good are the in helmet cameras.

Agree - helmet cam is really interesting. Visibility for the driver much reduced with the larger wheels now. Gives you a real insight into how difficult it must be to drive these cars at speed.

DB118D · 03-29-2022, 03:57 AM

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How good are the in helmet cameras.

These are a great view. I know they're not filtered, but they look very Star Wars

Watsey · 03-31-2022, 09:24 AM

Las Vegas has been announced for the F1 calendar from 2023. The circuit layout looks very simplistic and, no surprises, using 'the strip' so that so that the casino hotels benefit.

Some street circuits have a decent level of technical challenge, Monaco being a great example, but the Vegas layout just looks boring to me.

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