[inkiboo]

And if we are going to play the credential game, what do you know about MCAS and aviation?

[1 AKY]

(Always wanted to use this smilie)

[Wills2]

Originally Posted by inkiboo

I work with AI systems and nothing about MCAS suggests it is AI. ML possibly but not AI.

We seem to have reached a point where people think anything controlled by a computer is automatically AI. It's not.

There are very few true AI systems in the world and an awful lot of ML systems.

Not at all, I posed a question you dismissed it without explanation, hence my further enquiry.

ML = machine learning (I guess?)

When you say you work with AI systems what does that mean, you're a user or a developer, and what makes your system AI as distinct from ML?

As seem you to be a bit agitated about this, I'm asking genuinely if that helps.....

[Wills2]

Originally Posted by inkiboo

And if we are going to play the credential game, what do you know about MCAS and aviation?

Why are you being silly?

[Wills2]

Originally Posted by 1 AKY

(Always wanted to use this smilie)

You can't even ask a question these days.....we're doomed!

[1 AKY]

Originally Posted by Wills2

You can't even ask a question these days.....we're doomed!

Coincidentally received this via WhatsApp earlier today.

[inkiboo]

Originally Posted by Wills2

Not at all, I posed a question you dismissed it without explanation, hence my further enquiry.

ML = machine learning (I guess?)

When you say you work with AI systems what does that mean, you're a user or a developer, and what makes your system AI as distinct from ML?

As seem you to be a bit agitated about this, I'm asking genuinely if that helps.....

I work with AI systems, from Google, for medical research.

AI as a term has been entirely misused. MCAS merely sounds like a system that takes inputs and does actions. It may have some machine learning (ie adapting algorithms to improve how it works) but given the system was broken by lack of input from the single sensor, it seems to be a fairly basic system.

[SkyJawa]

Well even though we were due on a TUI Airways 737 800 on the 4th May, the grounding of the max 8 has indeed had an impact. They have obviously repurposed our plane elsewhere as we are now being shoved on a Titan Airways charter replacement instead, email received today.

Anyone got any experience of them? The missus is already making me look at alternative flights!

[JustChris]

Originally Posted by SkyJawa

Well even though we were due on a TUI Airways 737 800 on the 4th May, the grounding of the max 8 has indeed had an impact. They have obviously repurposed our plane elsewhere as we are now being shoved on a Titan Airways charter replacement instead, email received today.

Anyone got any experience of them? The missus is already making me look at alternative flights!

Ummm. Best bring a bible.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.d...-Stansted.html

[Broncho]

Originally Posted by SkyJawa

Well even though we were due on a TUI Airways 737 800 on the 4th May, the grounding of the max 8 has indeed had an impact. They have obviously repurposed our plane elsewhere as we are now being shoved on a Titan Airways charter replacement instead, email received today.

Anyone got any experience of them? The missus is already making me look at alternative flights!

Titan are fine, they do loads of football first team charters, excellent outfit don’t worry.

You may be lucky enough to get a 757 which would be a direct replacement for a 737 800.

[RobUK]

"Boeing has admitted that it knew about a problem with its 737 Max jets a year before the aircraft was involved in two fatal accidents, but took no action."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48174797

Can't say I'm in the least bit surprised.

[JustChris]

That's tragic and going to be extremely expensive for them now.

[SkyJawa]

Disgusting.

[Broncho]

Originally Posted by SkyJawa

Disgusting.

How were Titan?

[Watsey]

Originally Posted by RobUK

"Boeing has admitted that it knew about a problem with its 737 Max jets a year before the aircraft was involved in two fatal accidents, but took no action."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48174797

Can't say I'm in the least bit surprised.

Likewise, not at all surprised. I'd be surprised if there aren't a lot more worms in that can - the truth will out but the world won't really care, by which I mean Being will still carry on trading. A one-time cost, a financial blip, then back to normal.

I doubt anyone will be prosecuted or jailed over this scandal.

[SkyJawa]

Originally Posted by Broncho

How were Titan?

Walked to the gate and it was the original TUI 737 NG 800 we were supposed to be on in the first place

Email did say 1 or all of your flights so the return is still up in the air (pun intended )

[SkyJawa]

Originally Posted by Broncho

How were Titan?

Ok so we now have the answer. Our return flight was Titan. An Airbus A320.

It was pretty faultless, decent leg room, immaculately dressed and pleasant staff. Full drinks and snack service, onboard WiFi entertainment. My missus is fussy (not the happiest of flyers) and neither of us could fault a thing.

Sadly the same could not be said of the utter tosspots that run Gatwick. 30 mins in the family queue to get through passport control (very glad I wasn't in the non eu queue which was 15 times as long!), no problem you think, straight to baggage jobs a good un cases will be there, except it took them 1h30m from landing to get the cases onto a carousel all the time watching flights land after us getting them out straight away. Apologised on the tannoy but with no reason why.

Titan = great.
Gatwick = shite.

[Broncho]

Originally Posted by SkyJawa

Ok so we now have the answer. Our return flight was Titan. An Airbus A320.

It was pretty faultless, decent leg room, immaculately dressed and pleasant staff. Full drinks and snack service, onboard WiFi entertainment. My missus is fussy (not the happiest of flyers) and neither of us could fault a thing.

Sadly the same could not be said of the utter tosspots that run Gatwick. 30 mins in the family queue to get through passport control (very glad I wasn't in the non eu queue which was 15 times as long!), no problem you think, straight to baggage jobs a good un cases will be there, except it took them 1h30m from landing to get the cases onto a carousel all the time watching flights land after us getting them out straight away. Apologised on the tannoy but with no reason why.

Titan = great.
Gatwick = shite.

I’ll pass the feedback on to my mate he’s the chief operating officer

[SkyJawa]

Of who? Titan or Gatwick?

[Broncho]

Originally Posted by SkyJawa

Of who? Titan or Gatwick?

Gatwick.

[SkyJawa]

Originally Posted by Broncho

Gatwick.

Give them a kick up the arse the next time you meet up lol!

[SkyJawa]

And more bad press for Boeing

Pilots 'raised Boeing safety fears' months before Ethiopia crash https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48281282