[AyrshireColin]

Originally Posted by Blacktemplar

I’m slightly tempted by the iX3 as it ticks all the same boxes as the petrol version, other than noise, acceleration and some of the toys. Although it’s 2WD I guess that’s only occasionally a requirement.

Personally I wouldn’t be considering swapping the X3 M40i for an iX3. I’d think the only way it makes any sense is if desperate to get into an EV.

[JustChris]

Originally Posted by Blacktemplar

I’m slightly tempted by the iX3 as it ticks all the same boxes as the petrol version, other than noise, acceleration and some of the toys. Although it’s 2WD I guess that’s only occasionally a requirement.

X3 30e..? Took a look around the LCI today and it's a cracking car. I just wish the 31mikes was more of a 40.

[Blacktemplar]

Originally Posted by isleaiw1

Slightly tempted would be the words that made me decide its not for me.

Do the environmental thing and keep the one you have

I’m glad we have this forum to bring me back to my senses..

Can’t disagree with you - I was almost seduced by the shiny technomological dark side there.

On a more serious note, it does make you think about the whole life cycle of environmental impact. If you stand back from our fascination with new toys, the eco-burden of me buying a new EV is probably greater than just sticking with my ICE beastie but only doing a few thousand miles a year. I saw an article recently that suggested we might just about have enough lithium in the world to make batteries for the next 10 years or so, which is a bit alarming.

[Blacktemplar]

Originally Posted by JustChris

X3 30e..? Took a look around the LCI today and it's a cracking car. I just wish the 31mikes was more of a 40.

When it comes right down to it Chris, the noise, acceleration and toys are what I really like. Childish for a man of my advanced years, but it makes me smile.

Doubt an EV would do that and I can’t see me grinning like a maniac as I (silently) hammer away from the lights perhaps only accompanied by the soundtrack of Interstellar.

If someone could just make a straight six that matched the M40i for noise & drama but had the ability to go 40-50 miles on battery alone, was as practical as the X3 and cost under £50K, and attracted strong dealer support and a low APR... and ran on unicorn wee....

[Blacktemplar]

Originally Posted by JustChris

X3 30e..? Took a look around the LCI today and it's a cracking car. I just wish the 31mikes was more of a 40.

Quite a bit OT, but on the subject of the LCI our local dealer has a Brooklyn Grey X3 M40i on show, with the black wheels and what looks like M-style wing mirrors. Have to say the LCI changes make it look slightly more aggressive & muscular. I particularly like the rear light clusters which look like the Covenant energy sword from Halo

This is one from across the pond, but defo looks the mutt's...

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[73henny]

Originally Posted by JustChris

X3 30e..? Took a look around the LCI today and it's a cracking car. I just wish the 31mikes was more of a 40.

iX3

https://www.petervardy.com/bmw/offer...xoCl2sQAvD_BwE

[Blacktemplar]

Originally Posted by 73henny

iX3

https://www.petervardy.com/bmw/offer...xoCl2sQAvD_BwE

https://www.john-clark.co.uk/bmw/new...s/ix3-premier/

[JustChris]

Originally Posted by saltyamigo

Is it just me that think the blue accents look naff and out of place?

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yes they do and if you order most folks would choose the delete option I'm sure.

[dbramley]

Originally Posted by Blacktemplar

Quite a bit OT, but on the subject of the LCI our local dealer has a Brooklyn Grey X3 M40i on show, with the black wheels and what looks like M-style wing mirrors. Have to say the LCI changes make it look slightly more aggressive & muscular. I particularly like the rear light clusters which look like the Covenant energy sword from Halo

This is one from across the pond, but defo looks the mutt's...

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I’ve currently got an X3 and been debating about what’s next. That X3 LCI looks awesome, is all of that standard - I.e the rear light clusters? If so that seems a huge improvement in my eyes and could keep me with an X3.

I was also slightly swayed by a Tesla Model Y but looking on a UK Tesla Model Y Forum it seems quiet at the moment with no sign of any Model Ys getting delivered for at least the next year. Even in the US they seem to have a six month wait!

For me I’m thinking another ICE car next, then probably an EV.

[gangzoom]

Originally Posted by dbramley

I was also slightly swayed by a Tesla Model Y but looking on a UK Tesla Model Y Forum it seems quiet at the moment with no sign of any Model Ys getting delivered for at least the next year. Even in the US they seem to have a six month wait!

If you have the cash for the performance version (£65kish before options), I would be very surprised if you couldn't be in one by end of Q1 2022. Tesla uses every trick in the book to push people to buy the more expensive versions of their cars, Performance Y delivery in the US is barely 1 months lead time, the difference between the Performance Y and LR Y is one motor and some software so has nothing to do with production constraints. However the profit margins on the Performance model is higher.

Back in 2016/17 Tesla made up all kind of excuses on why standard suspension cars were HARDER to produce than Air Suspension cars (a £3k option I seem to vaguely recall), it got to a point where they essentially refused to honor non air suspension orders and sent emails out to push people to tick the options box, they than just cancelled all non air suspension orders.

[Blacktemplar]

Originally Posted by dbramley

I’ve currently got an X3 and been debating about what’s next. That X3 LCI looks awesome, is all of that standard - I.e the rear light clusters? If so that seems a huge improvement in my eyes and could keep me with an X3.

I was also slightly swayed by a Tesla Model Y but looking on a UK Tesla Model Y Forum it seems quiet at the moment with no sign of any Model Ys getting delivered for at least the next year. Even in the US they seem to have a six month wait!

For me I’m thinking another ICE car next, then probably an EV.

Yes, all standard, though the wheels are US-spec not UK. Here we get the black version of the 699M's

[TimMcC]

Originally Posted by gangzoom

If you have the cash for the performance version (£65kish before options), I would be very surprised if you couldn't be in one by end of Q1 2022. Tesla uses every trick in the book to push people to buy the more expensive versions of their cars, Performance Y delivery in the US is barely 1 months lead time, the difference between the Performance Y and LR Y is one motor and some software so has nothing to do with production constraints. However the profit margins on the Performance model is higher.

Back in 2016/17 Tesla made up all kind of excuses on why standard suspension cars were HARDER to produce than Air Suspension cars (a £3k option I seem to vaguely recall), it got to a point where they essentially refused to honor non air suspension orders and sent emails out to push people to tick the options box, they than just cancelled all non air suspension orders.

Tesla won't even tell you when the model Y will be available in the UK, much less let you order one!

I was interested, but I couldn't wait forever. Original rumours were this year, now next year. Wouldn't be surprised if it slips again.

[NISFAN]

Originally Posted by TimMcC

Tesla won't even tell you when the model Y will be available in the UK, much less let you order one!

I was interested, but I couldn't wait forever. Original rumours were this year, now next year. Wouldn't be surprised if it slips again.

Tesla model Y for EU/UK are supposed to be assembled in Gigafactory Berlin/ Brandenberg, which is about 3 months behind schedule. Probably safe to add 6 months on to planned availability.

American cars built in Germany and German cars built in Mexico. What's the world coming to?

[Hanchurch]

I've had my Model 3 Performance for 3 months, coming from a 335d and S4 before that. I'm very happy with it and had no build quality issues. It's a June 2021 China build.

[Nibbles]

I went to the local EV6 launch tonight. For a handy comparison, I went in my brother's iPace. We were both very impressed with the EV6, it seems well built and more spacious inside than the iPace. This might be more to do with a better design and use of space in the EV6 as well as the flat floor than actual square footage. I'm 6'5 and he's 6'7 and when sitting in the front with the seats as far back and low as possible we still got two adults behind us in the back seats with was quite impressive.
The dash screens are big and clear and the infotainment system seems simple to use and responsive. I didn't hate the touch screen and lack of physical buttons as much as I thought I would.
Overall we both agreed it's as good if not better than the iPace and seems better value.
I'll book a test drive next week to see how it drives. The only issue I can see is the lack of boot space compared to the G31.

[G50]

Originally Posted by Nibbles

I went to the local EV6 launch tonight. For a handy comparison, I went in my brother's iPace. We were both very impressed with the EV6, it seems well built and more spacious inside than the iPace. This might be more to do with a better design and use of space in the EV6 as well as the flat floor than actual square footage. I'm 6'5 and he's 6'7 and when sitting in the front with the seats as far back and low as possible we still got two adults behind us in the back seats with was quite impressive.
The dash screens are big and clear and the infotainment system seems simple to use and responsive. I didn't hate the touch screen and lack of physical buttons as much as I thought I would.
Overall we both agreed it's as good if not better than the iPace and seems better value.
I'll book a test drive next week to see how it drives. The only issue I can see is the lack of boot space compared to the G31.

So did it not feel like a downgrade interior wise after the G31?
Would you not miss the noise and that 500+ mile range on long runs down to France?

[MashinBenzin]

Originally Posted by Nibbles

I went to the local EV6 launch tonight. For a handy comparison, I went in my brother's iPace. We were both very impressed with the EV6, it seems well built and more spacious inside than the iPace. This might be more to do with a better design and use of space in the EV6 as well as the flat floor than actual square footage. I'm 6'5 and he's 6'7 and when sitting in the front with the seats as far back and low as possible we still got two adults behind us in the back seats with was quite impressive.
The dash screens are big and clear and the infotainment system seems simple to use and responsive. I didn't hate the touch screen and lack of physical buttons as much as I thought I would.
Overall we both agreed it's as good if not better than the iPace and seems better value.
I'll book a test drive next week to see how it drives. The only issue I can see is the lack of boot space compared to the G31.

Interesting review. Boot space is my concern for the EV6 (pretty much every EV) too.

If you're interested, a dealer with around 50 cars incoming in November posted 48 month PCP deals on another forum. Let me know if you want me to pm the link. No discount afaik, but availability and more than Kia's standard 37 month max make it interesting.

[Nibbles]

Originally Posted by G50

So did it not feel like a downgrade interior wise after the G31?
Would you not miss the noise and that 500+ mile range on long runs down to France?

The interior was nice enough that I don't think I'd see it as too much of a downgrade. I'll defer answering that fully until I've had a test drive and worked out if the seats are as comfy.
The trips to France and the general use of throwing anything I can think of into the boot to take to the tip are probably the only times I can think that I'd really miss the space but with a towbar on the back and roof box I think we could cope. Range I'm not worried about as on long trips the stops we make are generally for longer so waiting for charging isn't a big deal. Other than that we rarely would do 200 miles+ in a day.

In some ways, I think I'd miss the noise but in others, there is something nice about the silent acceleration of an EV in the iPace and Tesla's I've been in.

MashinBenzin a link to the PCP deals would be handy please, although I think I'd go for the GT which pricing isn't finalised for according to the dealer, the 58k may change later next year.

[adam.b]

Do not want start new thread, will ask here.
Did any one noticed when you drive past electric car it interfere with phone call via bluetooth or radio in car?
Normally it was noticeable with foreign lorries when they had CB radio.
Last few week I'm passing same Jag i-pace and always interfere with radio signal or phone call via bluetooth, never noticed with other electric cars. There could be a problem with that particular car.

[Sennen]

Not since the Vauxhall Cavalier does anything shout 'Company Car Driver' quite like a white Model 3

I am sure the hideous things are breeding round here

[isleaiw1]

Originally Posted by Sennen

Not since the Vauxhall Cavalier does anything shout 'Company Car Driver' quite like a white Model 3

I am sure the hideous things are breeding round here

I am sure that you post to wind up but as its friday I will bite...

If my company offered me the chance of a Model 3 for a BIK of 1% I would be all over it. So rather than look down your nose (as you do with most things) maybe you should look and think "they had the sense to avoid some income tax, maybe I should have been that bright..."

You've done well, no doubt that was a combination of hard work and good luck, some people dont have the same luck....

[sahajesh]

Originally Posted by Sennen

Not since the Vauxhall Cavalier does anything shout 'Company Car Driver' quite like a white Model 3

I am sure the hideous things are breeding round here

Or midnight silver grey whatever as the next inoffensive (but chargeable) colour.