[bytejunkie]

might have missed a thread here, but anyone watching this blow up?

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?ref=...lands%20police

unit 17 responds, though its not their car.



would love to see the independant report to see what the issues were. its no small job.

[DB118D]

Wasn't so much the "issues" more the fact that the parts used to create it were from at least 3 different stolen vehicles

[MY340i]

He was also arrested for stealing high performance cars including a 2015 M3.... :https://www.expressandstar.com/news/...-photographer/

[mikeoz]

Made by Lobb gmbH

[TouringPleb]

If your car is made up of 3 stolen cars, why on earth would you draw attention to yourself like that?

The colour, entering it in shows..

Crazy!

[Tengocity]

Originally Posted by bytejunkie

might have missed a thread here, but anyone watching this blow up?

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?ref=...lands%20police

unit 17 responds, though its not their car.



would love to see the independant report to see what the issues were. its no small job.

They also state that the car was crushed before the outcome of a court case, following which they had to pay compensation to the owner.
There's a lot more to this all than meets the eye.

[planemad]

someone's had the comp wheels before the crushing!!

[mikeoz]

Originally Posted by TouringPleb

If your car is made up of 3 stolen cars, why on earth would you draw attention to yourself like that?

The colour, entering it in shows..

Crazy!

As we both know Britain has some dumb criminals...

[Bryans69]

I can't see the compensation bit, as won't agree to all the Facebook steal my shit, but they only posted two days ago, so seems a bit quick....

https://west-midlands.police.uk/news...east-four-cars

[TouringPleb]

Originally Posted by Bryans69

I can't see the compensation bit, as won't agree to all the Facebook steal my shit, but they only posted two days ago, so seems a bit quick....

https://west-midlands.police.uk/news...east-four-cars

Exactly. The police only publicized this a coupled days ago. Why would they do that if they have been forced to pay compensation (which would mean the seizure and subsequent crushing were unlawful)?

Lots in their comment doesn't make sense to me.

[Bryans69]

Police have stated compensation etc completely untrue

https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1858476

[1 AKY]

It's a pity as casts a shadow over the legitimate conversions/transplants that have featured in the forum.

[225]

So a likely dangerous cut and shut with stolen parts is taken off the road and crushed, what's the issue?

[JustChris]

Originally Posted by 225

So a likely dangerous cut and shut with stolen parts is taken off the road and crushed, what's the issue?

The thieves weren't in the car

[bytejunkie]

Originally Posted by DB118D

Wasn't so much the "issues" more the fact that the parts used to create it were from at least 3 different stolen vehicles

yeah, but it was crushed because it was unsafe?

that bit doesnt add up.

im pretty sure being married to a police officer that they would have been quote careful to make sure they were on solid ground before crushing it, so maybe its been taken off the owner through stolen parts and crushed on safety grounds. the wall of text states that the owner also got an independant report on the safety fo the car.

it looked a nice car, i'd love an M3 estate ever since 63np did his, but im not sure i could risk the parts market. there is no telling where the parts come from uness you buy the crashed car and disassemble yourself.

[DaveA]

I don't use Facebook so could not read the originally linked article(s)..

I have read the linked police statement and seen the video they posted publicly on YouTube...

What I don't understand is why this would blow up or be in any way contested..?

The car was, as far as I can make out, illegal on a number of counts, not least of which significant parts of it appear to be from two stolen vehicles, and the V5 details did not match the actual car... and so, as far as I can see, it was bound to be seized when it came to light...

What am I missing...?

edited to add - my comment in the original version of this post about it not being roadworthy may have been a misunderstanding (on my part) of what the Police reporting was saying and so I have removed that element from the original post as it is unfair to leave it in...

[bytejunkie]

blowing up as in the millenial, to become of serious discussion.

the owner contested the order to crush it. shame the police crushed it before the court case.

agreed on stolen parts. not sure where you've got it from that it wasn't roadworthy. you undertake a lot of work to build one of these, but what you dont need to do is a lot to the chassis. they're relatively common across the model range. i dont view wider wings as making a car unroadworthy and i think i said above, would love to see the independant structural review.
given the current DVLA state of affairs, it could have been that the V5 was in a pile of documents in swansea.

[SantaEugence]

They do say that both the police examiner AND the independent one appointed by the owner both assessed it as dangerous though? So I suspect it was more than just a couple of arches welded on, the police reference that it was 2 chassis welded badly together

[DaveA]

Originally Posted by bytejunkie

blowing up as in the millenial, to become of serious discussion.

Yes, I did understand that... I didn't think somebody had used explosives on it...

Originally Posted by bytejunkie

the owner contested the order to crush it. shame the police crushed it before the court case.

I have seen nothing about this and I seriously cannot imagine they crushed it without having gone through the due process... Given that the original stop was, what, November 2020, and this has been posted recently..?

But, as I say, I know nothing about that side of it, only what has been said publicly by the police...

edited to add - I am reading through a long thread about this on Pistonheads and, as far as I can make out, the only place such allegations of a court case and compensation were made was a single instagram post with no verifiable references... The Police appear to have, in writing, categorically denied the suggestions made in these respects...

Originally Posted by bytejunkie

agreed on stolen parts. not sure where you've got it from that it wasn't roadworthy. you undertake a lot of work to build one of these, but what you dont need to do is a lot to the chassis. they're relatively common across the model range. i dont view wider wings as making a car unroadworthy and i think i said above, would love to see the independant structural review.

Of course, I am not a party to any of the events, but reading the Police statement, I read the following:

"a death-trap botched together from at least four cars"

"scratch beneath the veneer and it was just tag welded and structurally unsafe"

"We seize the vehicle as it’s illegal and unsafe"

They also referred to the vehicle as "illegal".

I concede, however, that the word "roadworthy" was not used by the Police in their statement and I should not have used it... I will add a codicil to my original post to explain...

[DaveA]

Originally Posted by SantaEugence

They do say that both the police examiner AND the independent one appointed by the owner both assessed it as dangerous though? So I suspect it was more than just a couple of arches welded on, the police reference that it was 2 chassis welded badly together

Yes, I think I was using the word "roadworthy" in the wrong context... It was these sorts of elements in what the Police press release states that I was alluding to...

[DaveA]

Originally Posted by bytejunkie

given the current DVLA state of affairs, it could have been that the V5 was in a pile of documents in swansea.

As for the V5 and the registration… It’s not a case of simply informing them of a few changes and carrying on whilst everything is working its way through the system…

If you follow the guidance, it is my understanding that a car that is made up of two joined together (to form one) would have to be registered as a new vehicle under the “radically altered vehicles” procedures… Furthermore, because it is a welding together of two vehicles, it would automatically have to have a Q registration…

https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-registrat...tered-vehicles

https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-approval

You will need to apply for a VIN number for the new car…. There will be a DVSA test as part of the process for type approval (am guessing this is where the tax banding is established)…

My understanding is that the vehicle is not legal to drive on the public highway without completing the valid registration procedure for the altered vehicle, and it certainly cannot be taxed or insured until then…

Whether or not any of that paperwork is stuck in the post, you just cannot use such a vehicle on the highway legally until you have all that in place…

ps - if it had have gone through that process there would be an independent structural review.. The DVSA inspection would have type approved the car for road use...

[SantaEugence]

Wonder which parts they so dangerously welded together? Assume it was a standard 320 estate so would only require body work enhancements, not like they took an M3 and welded an estate back end to it…