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      01-13-2021, 12:10 PM   #661
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You have 606 right ? It’s business option

About the connection Im sure it’s 6 pins, bmw cars with screens are 6 pins since end of 2012
no, I do not have that option.
my "s6xx" option are
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Multimedia
S6AK Connected Drive Services
S6AE Teleservices
S6AP Remote Services
S698 Area-Code 2 for DVD
S6AC Intelligent emergency call
S6NH Hands-free system with USB interface
in any case, the CID i mounted should work.

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Cheers, used this for mine and it worked a treat👍🏼
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no, I do not have that option.
my "s6xx" option are
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Multimedia
S6AK Connected Drive Services
S6AE Teleservices
S6AP Remote Services
S698 Area-Code 2 for DVD
S6AC Intelligent emergency call
S6NH Hands-free system with USB interface
in any case, the CID i mounted should work.
Thanks , did you check that on bimmer.work??

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Cheers, used this for mine and it worked a treat����
Which car please and which part number original and changed ?
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      01-14-2021, 03:25 PM   #664
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Here is my update, just right now I successfully retrofitted TOUCH display (65508709339) on EntryNav2 head unit (with navigation). IT WORKS!
On this screenshot it is before coding touch. Then I added following 2 FDL codings and touch also become functional:
CID_TOUCH = aktiv (default nicht_aktiv)
CID_HMI_TOUCH = aktiv (default nicht_aktiv)

Bottom line, it is possible to retrofit touch display w/ touch functionality on EntryNav2
So you only bought the display and coded it?
There is nothing more to do? No extra unit (or so) needed?
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Question i know i might be far off in thread but id thought id ask anyway i currently have the hu_entry nav i believe w the 6.5 went ahead and purchased the ( nbt hu ) i was told it should work well since im getting the unit and the 8.8 lci i got power only issue im having is im not getting audio
Below i provided what i have currently plugged in the green i honestly had to force in although it was forced it fit well and and white i wasnt able to but i also read that the white is supposed to be for video but as you can see theres two slots there where in my previous unit it was only a white . If anyone has any solutions please lmk asap
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So you only bought the display and coded it?
There is nothing more to do? No extra unit (or so) needed?
Correct, only 8.8 touch display 65508709339
BTW I assume larger touch display e.g. 10.25 from 5 series also might work

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Then I will go for the touchscreen (65508709339) instead of the normal 8.8" screen (65506822626).
Thank you.
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      01-15-2021, 10:57 AM   #668
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Thanks , did you check that on bimmer.work??
yes, there are many similar sites
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I am trying to fit a NBT display to NBT EVO head unit.
Is it possible without the LVDS voltage converter?
What if I code the HU configuration to APIX1 (currently APIX2)?
Hi. Why would you do that? The evo displays are a lot easier to come by and are cheaper. The evo displays are also less bluish and more bright.
Not sure why would you complicate your life like this. If you have the evo headunit so ID5/6/7 you should be fine.
All the screens that you will find on realoem when you fake that your car has the pronav, will be the evo displays.
If you have a nbt only unit, then you have to search for a lot older 8.8" screens, and they will NOT popup if you search for your car...
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I retrofitted with success an 8,8" monitor thanks to all the infos found here

details of my build

June 2019 F20
  • Head Unit: 00005D0F EntryEvoMed ECE 03D0 (USB2 2MICIN CVBS1 ETH OABR1 BT USB1)
  • Navigation: no navigation
  • iDrive: Idrive6 Light (NBT Evo)
  • the 8.8" screen part number 6822626
  • the replaced 6.5" screen part number 6550 6837127

once installed I coded via BimmerCode the same 2 lines explained elsewhere in this thread
  • DISPLAY_SIZE_RESOLUTION = 8.8_1280x480
  • DISPLAY_VARIANTE = breites_display
i do not remember exactly the positions of these 2 lines in any case I coded them successfully
Mine too should be either 65506837127 or 65506837128, as i have s606a, can I use same screen as yours(6822626) ? F20 2017

Mate, be very careful with realoem.
Let me explain. If you key in your car, then realoem will show you the 8.8" displays that were fitted in your car, however it will assume that you would have the pronav headunit! Between 2016-2017 they were putting different headunit for business nav and pro nav. Which you obviously do not have. This is the main reason why there are so many people buying wrong screens coding shows blank screen and it does not work

The only reliable way to figure out what screen you need is to look at your current one and look at your headunit.

If your screen is L7 MID, then you need L7 HIGH screen. You will most probably have a magneti marreli headunit.
If your screen will say LK MID then you need a LK HIGH, you will most probably have a harman unit.

The L7 is pre lci and LK is lci and they have different voltage.

Between 2016-2017 there is a ton of different units, it is a minefield.

So be careful.
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      01-18-2021, 02:55 PM   #671
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Question i know i might be far off in thread but id thought id ask anyway i currently have the hu_entry nav i believe w the 6.5 went ahead and purchased the ( nbt hu ) i was told it should work well since im getting the unit and the 8.8 lci i got power only issue im having is im not getting audio
Below i provided what i have currently plugged in the green i honestly had to force in although it was forced it fit well and and white i wasnt able to but i also read that the white is supposed to be for video but as you can see theres two slots there where in my previous unit it was only a white . If anyone has any solutions please lmk asap
Hi. I believe the white one is the armrest usb. And I know also that the older white usb FAKRA plug does not fit the new one. There are guides out there that tell you to cut some of the ridges off the plug with Stanley knife. Then it will fit in the socket. But be careful to plug it then. The main reason for the ridges is that the plug and socket are aligned.
In regards to the audio. I do not have a clue. The fibre cables are audio, you sure they are well in? Also in the armrest you have aux as well, not sure this is the same cable but perhaps try again when you sort out the white plug.
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Hi guys,
I've done 6.5" to 8.8" upgrade on my 2015 F30 with HU EntryNav.
Coded with BimmerCode, display works fine.
But I noticed that new display is more dim compare to my old 6.5 screen.

Any ways to increase brightness with coding? Maybe increase display voltage or code some custom values of brightness? Any ideas?

PS: I previously search for this issue and check all the recommendations: my brightness is set 100% in settings. Display version set to "old". No dark mode enabled. It is still not enough bright, especially in sunny day.
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I believe so. It is slightly dimmer, perhaps as it is a older screen. I think mine is as well, but I got used to it very quickly. I think for me it is just the right amount. So it does not shine into your face. I do mot believe anyone came with a solution for the brightness.
Also mine when I coded it with bimmercode only show 2/3 of the screen and the resolution was very pixelated. It was very obvious on the round icons. Once I had Zed Coding do it remotely using esys, it works great and resolution is great also. Tey to recode it with esys
The dimness of the new screen continued to bug me plus I noticed what appeared to be an amber tinted anti-glare coating that made Google Maps in Android Auto look terrible and any white font and other screen elements look yellowish.

I used Novus plastic polish (https://www.amazon.com/Novus-7100-Pl...s%2C914&sr=8-5) to buff off the anti-glare coating and the screen is noticeably brighter now and so far I haven't had any issues seeing the screen in bright sunlight.
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Hello everybody! Car BMW 420d xdrive F36 2014, factory option codes:
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P337A, P891A, S161A, S1CAA, S205A, S248A,S258A, S2PAA, S2PLA, S316A, S320A, S423A, S428A, S431A, S441A, S459A, S465A, S481A, S493A, S494A, S4AEA,S4DLA, S4MRA, S502A, S508A, S521A, S522A, S534A, S544A, S548A, S563A, S676A, S6AAA, S6ABA, S6NHA, S6UDA, S6WAA, S701A, S710A, S715A, S760A, S775A,S842A, S891A, S8LRA, S8S3A, S8SCA, S9AAA
Entrynav1+6.5" 9270393 CID factory installed.
I've bought CID from ID4 APIX1 8.8" 9387453 and connect it to car wiring
and nothing happens: "NO SIGNAL" isn't pictured on screen, no backlight on screen etc.
Then i code in ESYS with Enet:
HU_NBT > 3001 EXBOX > DISPLAY_VARIANTE = breites_display
and
HU_NBT > 3000 HMI > DISPLAY_SIZE_RESOLUTION = 8.8_1280x480
or
HU_NBT > 3000 HMI > DISPLAY_SIZE_RESOLUTION = 10.25_1280x480
and nothin happens again...

I measured the voltage coming in when it was plugged in - it is ~8.3V
Then I applied this voltage(~8-8.3V) to the screen from an external power source "on the table", and screen pictured NO-SIGNAL, and backlight is on.

Guys, what's wrong with my device or my coding? pls help.
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6.5" head unit

Hello

I have looked on the internet for some aftermarket solutions to update the head unit for my F30 2012, but I'm not sure what it's compatible with my car.

I'm not looking for some special features, just music playback over Bluetooth and Android Auto (wireless would be appreciated).

Can someone recommend me something that worked and can be bought from Aliexpress somewhere in EU

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Mate, be very careful with realoem.
Let me explain. If you key in your car, then realoem will show you the 8.8" displays that were fitted in your car, however it will assume that you would have the pronav headunit! Between 2016-2017 they were putting different headunit for business nav and pro nav. Which you obviously do not have. This is the main reason why there are so many people buying wrong screens coding shows blank screen and it does not work

The only reliable way to figure out what screen you need is to look at your current one and look at your headunit.

If your screen is L7 MID, then you need L7 HIGH screen. You will most probably have a magneti marreli headunit.
If your screen will say LK MID then you need a LK HIGH, you will most probably have a harman unit.

The L7 is pre lci and LK is lci and they have different voltage.

Between 2016-2017 there is a ton of different units, it is a minefield.

So be careful.

ok thanks for the information
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Hello everybody! Car BMW 420d xdrive F36 2014, factory option codes:
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P337A, P891A, S161A, S1CAA, S205A, S248A,S258A, S2PAA, S2PLA, S316A, S320A, S423A, S428A, S431A, S441A, S459A, S465A, S481A, S493A, S494A, S4AEA,S4DLA, S4MRA, S502A, S508A, S521A, S522A, S534A, S544A, S548A, S563A, S676A, S6AAA, S6ABA, S6NHA, S6UDA, S6WAA, S701A, S710A, S715A, S760A, S775A,S842A, S891A, S8LRA, S8S3A, S8SCA, S9AAA
Entrynav1+6.5" 9270393 CID factory installed.
I've bought CID from ID4 APIX1 8.8" 9387453 and connect it to car wiring
and nothing happens: "NO SIGNAL" isn't pictured on screen, no backlight on screen etc.
Then i code in ESYS with Enet:
HU_NBT > 3001 EXBOX > DISPLAY_VARIANTE = breites_display
and
HU_NBT > 3000 HMI > DISPLAY_SIZE_RESOLUTION = 8.8_1280x480
or
HU_NBT > 3000 HMI > DISPLAY_SIZE_RESOLUTION = 10.25_1280x480
and nothin happens again...

I measured the voltage coming in when it was plugged in - it is ~8.3V
Then I applied this voltage(~8-8.3V) to the screen from an external power source "on the table", and screen pictured NO-SIGNAL, and backlight is on.

Guys, what's wrong with my device or my coding? pls help.
What is the date on the screen?
Blank screen is usually wrong voltage.

I am not familiar with 4 series screens but in 1 series it is a minefield and I did a lot of research about it to make sure I get the right screen.

I may suspect you bought a wrong screen. As I said, check the date on it. If it is well past 2014, then there is a food chance it is wrong.

The screen should be manufactured ideally before the car was.
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Hello

I have looked on the internet for some aftermarket solutions to update the head unit for my F30 2012, but I'm not sure what it's compatible with my car.

I'm not looking for some special features, just music playback over Bluetooth and Android Auto (wireless would be appreciated).

Can someone recommend me something that worked and can be bought from Aliexpress somewhere in EU

Regards
Hi, check Bimmersupplies.nl
He has same mmis for android auto as bimmertech but cheaper, and he has other solutions too. Ask him if there is something compatible for you.
Also you may want to look at a android screen. This will give you android auto and leave your oem system alone working in the background.
There is a lot of options and many will not work on your car as it is older.
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What is the date on the screen?
Blank screen is usually wrong voltage.

I am not familiar with 4 series screens but in 1 series it is a minefield and I did a lot of research about it to make sure I get the right screen.

I may suspect you bought a wrong screen. As I said, check the date on it. If it is well past 2014, then there is a food chance it is wrong.

The screen should be manufactured ideally before the car was.
Hi! Hmmm...
Date 12/01/2016
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What is the date on the screen?
Blank screen is usually wrong voltage.

I am not familiar with 4 series screens but in 1 series it is a minefield and I did a lot of research about it to make sure I get the right screen.

I may suspect you bought a wrong screen. As I said, check the date on it. If it is well past 2014, then there is a food chance it is wrong.

The screen should be manufactured ideally before the car was.
Hi! Hmmm...
Date 12/01/2016
Yeah I am pretty sure the screen does not fit.
Just as a example from my screen hunt:

My car is from 06/2016, last month of a production line. And it is the first lci.
from that year around +/- a year people reported very mixed results. Everyone here used realoem to choose a screen and there was a list flying around, despite that many were not successful, even when I asked on ebay why they selling, answer was wrong screen bought. Or if a car shop was the seller they always told me it is a evo screen, despite it being on realoem as fitting. I wrote this before, realoem will give you a list of screens but assuming you have pro nav and a appropriate head unit, that you do not have.
Eventually I looked at my current screen and current head unit. This gave me a clue and I knew I needed to look for a lot older 8.8" screens. Eventually I got it right.
I do not want to be too long, I can PM you if you want with more info...
Also even Bimmertech once told me that the screen manufacture date must the around the same or earlier as your car. A bit of a thin advice but seems correct. Though for me it was only half correct, for you as your car is 2014 should be sound...
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Hi!
Today I successfully coded the 8.8 screen with Esys on my HU Entrynav. Splitscreen works fine. But I can't set any kind of map on the right splitscreen-side? Only position, entertainmant details etc. Do I have to code anything else to see the map on the right splitscreen-side?
I want to have it like this: Left side entertainment details / right side map.
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Hi!
Today I successfully coded the 8.8 screen with Esys on my HU Entrynav. Splitscreen works fine. But I can't set any kind of map on the right splitscreen-side? Only position, entertainmant details etc. Do I have to code anything else to see the map on the right splitscreen-side?
I want to have it like this: Left side entertainment details / right side map.
Hi. I do mot think that goes. Only thing you can get on the right is the detailed directions, that arrow view on junctions. Not the map itself. But check it. If you go to the options of the split screen, you can check what you want to have there. But if I remember well if you pit navigation you get the arrows there.
I installed apple CarPlay mmi last week and the built in maps are gone for me.
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Today I've successfully swapped my 6.5" screen (6837128) to a 8.8" TOUCH screen (8709339)!

That's what I've coded (using BimmerCode):
  • 3005 DISPLAY_PIP_CONFIG > CID_DISPLAY_RES = 1280_480
  • 3005 DISPLAY_PIP_CONFIG > CID_DISPLAY_SIZE = 8_8
  • 3001 DISPLAY_VARIANTE = breites_display
  • 3006 NAVIGATION > DISPLAY_SIZE_RESOLUTION = 8.8_1280x480
  • 3005 DISPLAY_PIP_CONFIG > CID_TOUCH = aktiv
  • 300B TOUCH_COMMAND > CID_HMI_TOUCH = aktiv


Big thanks to all who provided so much information in this forum!
And special thanks to SniPro, your post lead me to get the 8.8" touch screen instead of just a normal 8.8" screen.
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