[KRS_SN]

https://www.theguardian.com/food/202...ood-is-insects
anyone tried it or want to try it

[Pentland]

Originally Posted by KRS_SN

https://www.theguardian.com/food/202...ood-is-insects
anyone tried it or want to try it

Why would you when cows are soooooo tasty?

[Abzynthe]

I've found being diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes has done wonders for my waistline. I've lost 4 stone since October.

[ian332isport]

Originally Posted by Abzynthe

I've found being diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes has done wonders for my waistline. I've lost 4 stone since October.

Good work

[isleaiw1]

Originally Posted by Abzynthe

I've found being diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes has done wonders for my waistline. I've lost 4 stone since October.

I reckon I've found it ;

[RobUK]

As a motorcyclist I eat bugs all the time

[KRS_SN]

I was eating a John West tuna pasta thing as a snack when I read this. Felt disgusted but hence wondered if tuna itself unless I had been exposed to it would have counted as a disgusting food. Had to bin the snack. had toast crisps and chilli coated peanuts for dinner nothing offensive about those.

[G50]

Originally Posted by KRS_SN

I was eating a John West tuna pasta thing as a snack when I read this. Felt disgusted but hence wondered if tuna itself unless I had been exposed to it would have counted as a disgusting food. Had to bin the snack. had toast crisps and chilli coated peanuts for dinner nothing offensive about those.

I worry about you mate.

[GOF_430d]

4 stone since October!! What's your secret? This information is important to a man who's favourites are beer, cider and biscuits. Also I'm borderline diabetic and need to make dietary changes.

[Abzynthe]

Originally Posted by GOF_430d

4 stone since October!! What's your secret? This information is important to a man who's favourites are beer, cider and biscuits. Also I'm borderline diabetic and need to make dietary changes.

Medication, Exercise and cut out all salty and sugary foods. No secret really

[Ennoch]

Originally Posted by GOF_430d

4 stone since October!! What's your secret? This information is important to a man who's favourites are beer, cider and biscuits. Also I'm borderline diabetic and need to make dietary changes.

After his cancer treatment a number of years ago my dad was pre-diabetic because of the weight gain. He managed to go from nearly 100kg to under 70kg to reverse the pre-diabetes in maybe 9 months? He did it by a combination of cutting out pretty much all carbs, certainly all processed carbs, alcohol and then blending it with Michael Moseley's 5/2 diet, and of course exercise, although the diet is the big one. It definitely takes willpower but it is entirely possible to do it without recourse to taking medication like statins. For a man who likes beer, cider and biscuits (i.e. me too) I think you're SOL on keeping the two sides of that coin facing in the same direction! That's not to say you can't enjoy biscuits and beer in the future, but if you're borderline diabetic there's a shift change required to reverse that before you can really consider going back to eating stuff like that regularly.

[Ennoch]

Originally Posted by Abzynthe

Medication, Exercise and cut out all salty and sugary foods. No secret really

Salt isn't actually bad for you, in fact almost all the older studies suggesting it was came from bad science whereby the studies were based on processed food and the sponsors (i.e the sugar companies) had a preconcieved expectation of the outcome (salt); the attributes of ill health levied at salt are actually the symptoms of excess sugar consumption. There's a book which was written in the 70's called Pure, White & Deadly and it's only recently been finally accepted that the guy knew what he was talking about.

It's the same sort of thing as the studies which say red meat's bad for you, where the study is sponsored and carried out by lifelong vegan activists and focuses on processed red meat containing nitrites as preservatives (good for preventing botulism, bad for human health, albeit not as bad as botulism is), or the egg studies which simply take any processed food containing eggs (including McDonalds Egg McMuffins).

[Pentland]

Originally Posted by Ennoch

Salt isn't actually bad for you,

It is if a 1 tonne block drops on your head.

[Abzynthe]

Originally Posted by Ennoch

Salt isn't actually bad for you, in fact almost all the older studies suggesting it was came from bad science whereby the studies were based on processed food and the sponsors (i.e the sugar companies) had a preconcieved expectation of the outcome (salt); the attributes of ill health levied at salt are actually the symptoms of excess sugar consumption. There's a book which was written in the 70's called Pure, White & Deadly and it's only recently been finally accepted that the guy knew what he was talking about.

It's the same sort of thing as the studies which say red meat's bad for you, where the study is sponsored and carried out by lifelong vegan activists and focuses on processed red meat containing nitrites as preservatives (good for preventing botulism, bad for human health, albeit not as bad as botulism is), or the egg studies which simply take any processed food containing eggs (including McDonalds Egg McMuffins).

I also have/had hypertension, and was advised to cut out salty foods.

Tbh, ive slowed down, and started eating more sugary/salty foods lately. I think I took it to the extreme when I was diagnosed.
Im still keeping track of my sugars etc though.

[KRS_SN]

I have a wholesome dinner at 9pm then next meal is at 12 pm I skip breakfast in my book a fast of 15 hours.
Weekends I do have a family breakfast though.

[winther1]

Originally Posted by KRS_SN

I have a wholesome dinner at 9pm then next meal is at 12 pm I skip breakfast in my book a fast of 15 hours.
Weekends I do have a family breakfast though.

Sounds like 2 meals a day could slow down you metabolism. Perhaps this works for you, but my cutting diet is roughly like this:

- 5 small meals a day
- Lean proteins, moderate amounts of carbs
- Everything after dinner is pure protein/fat
- no junk food/alcohol
- approx 500kcal below maintenance

combined with HIIT and heavy weight training, I get lean every time.

[GOF_430d]

Ennoch & Abzynthe,

So all I need is will power to not consume foods that are bad for me and exercise - I'm doomed.

Ok I rejoined a gym two weeks ago and after 13 months away from regular exercise I can tell you that the calories contained in one Rich Tea biscuit require 11 minutes on an exercise bike. This is going to take some time...

[isleaiw1]

Originally Posted by GOF_430d

Ennoch & Abzynthe,

So all I need is will power to not consume foods that are bad for me and exercise - I'm doomed.

Ok I rejoined a gym two weeks ago and after 13 months away from regular exercise I can tell you that the calories contained in one Rich Tea biscuit require 11 minutes on an exercise bike. This is going to take some time...

I havent been in a gym since I was 16... and I am a fair bit older than that! If i cut out alcohol and carbs, sugars and salt I would never eat anything! I console myself that I dont smoke, and walk a fair bit, and I dont want to be a burden on my kids when I am old

[Abzynthe]

I'm just eating what I fancy now, which to be honest isn't as bad as it used to be before being diagnosed.
I keep track of my sugars, so that I know if what I am eating is bad, and I make sure I keep below 2,000 calories a day. Any exercise is then more calories I'm allowed for that day, and If I don't use them, they count towards my weight loss lol. I walk my daughter to school every morning, so that an extra 400 calories, and I like to be out and walking at the weekend. I usually skip lunch at the weekend aswell.

I was at 21 stone back in October, so I would say it was a lot easier to lose the weight than if I started at the 17 stone Im at now.

[Ennoch]

Originally Posted by winther1

Sounds like 2 meals a day could slow down you metabolism. Perhaps this works for you, but my cutting diet is roughly like this:

- 5 small meals a day
- Lean proteins, moderate amounts of carbs
- Everything after dinner is pure protein/fat
- no junk food/alcohol

combined with HIIT and heavy weight training, I get lean every time.

The problem with many small meals is that if you're already becoming borderline insulin resistant then this only fuels the fire as it keeps your pancreas gland firing all the time. Swapping to a couple of meals and intermittent fasting rolls back this insulin resistance in a lot of cases, but you do need to have some dramatic weight loss accompanied with it as it's not sufficient to just get your weight rolled back to just under the threshold that triggered your resistance, you need to get well under it to reset things.

I am not a doctor however, all I'm saying is what my research and my dad's research came up with. This included books like those by Michael Moseley, and the dissection of poor studies by a doctor called Zoe Harcombe who has a regular blog which breaks down these studies to see where their influence came from, as well as how that may impact their objectivity.

[Ennoch]

Originally Posted by GOF_430d

Ennoch & Abzynthe,

So all I need is will power to not consume foods that are bad for me and exercise - I'm doomed.

Ok I rejoined a gym two weeks ago and after 13 months away from regular exercise I can tell you that the calories contained in one Rich Tea biscuit require 11 minutes on an exercise bike. This is going to take some time...

I feel ya, my comfortable weight is about 72kg, maybe 73kg if I've been riding a lot, but can get down to 68kg if I'm super active and trying to get light for climbing. I'm currently 80kg, and have been eating lazily for the last 8 or 9 months. It's not good, particularly when I like chocolate biscuits...a lot.

[KRS_SN]

Originally Posted by isleaiw1

If i cut out alcohol and carbs, sugars and salt I would never eat anything!:

my situation too.. I still eat a lot far more than I would like but I enjoy eating and drinking and those are joys of life. I add in some fasting.