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Was on stock dampers then coilovers but in both cases the rear wheels would often lift instead of being in contact whenever a bump comes across, what I want is a balance between body roll control and suspension independence, I don't feel the H&R are right for that.
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I'm not sure what other options there are for xDrive, if that doesn't work then I guess upgrading isn't really the best option. |
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Following advice from this forum I bought the 15mm bmw rear bar for my 335 xdrive, but the last quote I got was $650 for installation. Saying it's an option...
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General setup is: - ST Sport Springs - Koni Sport yellow dampers - Eibach antiroll bars - KC Design endlinks This is a good match together, it's really when all components come together that it makes for a consistent setup.
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hiya... slightly confused by the / in the numbers, what does it mean to say 25/22.2mm front sway bar? EDIT: oh its outer and inner radius, so ... that meansthe OEM ones are hollow, right? Last edited by gippy; 09-16-2020 at 08:11 AM.. |
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That's because the diameter is not the same everywhere, attached is a photo where i've drawn the actual diameter of each section
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ok ta. i stumbled across your very useful thread - currently trying to determine how much stiffer the H&R bars are compared to my OEM (440i w/passive m-sport suspension), in % terms roughly. Would you take the point of smallest diameter on the OEM, so 22.2, to plug into the formula? (i'm assuming OEM's are solid then) |
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With the multiple diameters of course it's a bit more complicated, and i haven't studied the effects of torsion on a shaft with different diameters but i would think it results in some progressivity, ie. stiffer as torsion increases That would workout for h&r to be 2.4 times stronger (or +140%) roughly although the actual effect depends on the adjustment since they are two way adjustable, the endlinks will have greater leverage at the outermost attachment points
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I found nothing but good reviews here on bimmerpost so went ahead ordering them, which was a first for my shop as they usually push KW and a bit of Bilstein, but overall quite good, the only difficulty is adjusting the rear shocks requires to remove them completely
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To me it's not soft or hard, but more between bouncy (insufficient rebound control) and " crashy " (not enough rebound), and a good compromise in between i would call composed, sufficient initial rebound to absorb shock and revert, but not too much to keep in control and not bounce around. You need to try different settings but the rear is a pain to change though as you need to dismount the damper. The best settings would depend on your springs (stiffer springs will need stronger rebound control), and weight distribution; i would recommend to increase rebound damping at the rear from factory settings though, then adjust front; it seems to me rear rebound damping has a significantly greater impact than front, but then again that comment could very well be specific to my car.
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sooo whats the verdict on the sway bars then?
i was going to get H&R, then flipped to Eibach, now not sure as the KC design ones could be good too? my purpose is for a track orientated setup - but i dont want it to be 'dangerous' for the road. I do not drive enthusiastically on public roads so not bothered about road performance, as long as its safe enough for motorways, quick lane changes and going to the shops then that would be fine. i would say that even without an LSD, if i stick it in sport+ to allow some slip, and floor it coming out of a wide right hand turn from a standstill at a traffic light - the rear will 'wobble'. No steering correction needed, but there is that 'floaty weighty wobble' - maybe the B14 kit i've ordered will remedy some of that - its fine on track and enjoyable, but i wouldn't want to make that 'worse' on the road. i suppose my only concern is putting a stiff rear sway will make the back more 'sketchy' - but then i'll be adding a considerably stiffer front Sway too, so the effect should balance out? in which case, maybe H&R is best for me? what do you guys think |
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So, if I wanted to keep the ride height, and reduce body roll, while not negatively impacting handling composure, in what order would I work to upgrade things?
it would be nice to cut the excessive body roll measurably without breaking the bank. would a strut tower brace, which looks to be the least expensive and easiest thing to do, be of much value on an otherwise stock 328i Msport?
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ST Suspension just entered the ball game. The kit is half the price of H&Rs kit, and sized at 28/19 front and rear. 2 settings
https://suspension-shop.com/st-suspe...plete-kit.html
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