Daytime Full Beam Bikers

SkyJawa · 08-11-2018, 06:57 AM

You are twats. That is all.

(Coming from another biker btw)

Watsey · 08-11-2018, 07:23 AM

Completely agree. Very off putting and distracting = dangerous.

There are other ways to create road presence and therefore awareness from other drivers.

EDIT : Even more distracting/dangerous when said bikers sits directly in the line of sight of rear/side mirrors - really blinding. If a flash of my rear fog lights isn't received an understood I'm told that using the front washer jets and windscreen wipers may illicit a change in the biker's position and distance. I'm not saying it's right, but neither is blinding the driver in front.

Alscoob · 08-11-2018, 07:32 AM

Well when I rode a lot there were so many drivers of cars that were blind to anything even it it was right in front of them.... so colourful leathers, fancy lid, colourful bike, race can.... headlight on....they still wouldn't know you were there..... but if you rode properly you would know that they didn't know you were there and acted accordingly, so maybe you would light up their mirror with a couple of flashes maybe.

Have to say that today with all these LEd's and day running lights the advantage of the bike headlight is just lost in the array of others, hence some bikes with several lights on the front or the race rep guy with main beam trying to make his candle even brighter.

Personally I do agree with you though pisses me off no end.... education of the car driver and biker to some degree, especially the numpty I saw yesterday in a T shirt and shorts would help, but that's never going to happen, so I just guess we'll have to get used to it....although not everyone rides on full beam

JD6 · 08-11-2018, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SkyJawa

You are twats. That is all.

(Coming from another biker btw)

Completely agree!

This is actually beginning to apply to cyclists as well in my experience, now that they age getting ever-brighter LED lights. It didn't used to matter how bike lights were aimed, as they weren't bright enough to really dazzle. Not any more though...

Russbmw · 08-11-2018, 01:38 PM

Only time I use full beam is when I'm filtering a long way on motorways through stationary traffic. The amount of agitated drivers that simply don't look before swerving into another lane is unreal.

SkyJawa · 08-11-2018, 02:49 PM

This was country road, cloudy day, under tree canopy, 2 of the twats together doing it. Missus was driving with me in the back, they blinded me let alone her. We could see them just fine even on dipped, full beam was totally unnecessary and downright dangerous.

Alice Coupe · 08-11-2018, 02:56 PM

Another biker too.

I’d rather cyclists and bikers make sure they are seen than chance not being seen. As said earlier, with DRLs and some car headlights being ludicrously bright, a bike can get lost in all this easily these days.

That said, I also think there are far more clowns on bikes these days not only taking out some very risk manoeuvres but not thinking about the basic ones.

For example, I have no problem with bikes running up he middle of two lanes of traffic, but it’s idoitic doing this on dual carriageway where an on ramp merges.
It’s all very well making progress but let’s face it, bike v car, bike is not going to win. No point being correct and dead, ride defensively.

JustChris · 08-11-2018, 05:27 PM

Pisses me off no end.

obert · 08-11-2018, 05:34 PM

I agree and it isn’t just bikes here. Seems like everyone from bikes all the way to semi trucks running around in the day with high beams on. It’s like the normal thing to do now.

Makes me crazy and blinding.

Kal101 · 08-12-2018, 05:37 AM

-and let’s not forget the I’m going to turn on my front and rear fog lights as it makes my car look really sporty bruv innit brigade either

Daftasabrush · 08-12-2018, 08:03 AM

Utter bellends IMO. Bikes on full beam mean you can't actually see what they are, or what's around them because their light dazzles you so much. Knobs.

Rbrown · 08-12-2018, 12:40 PM

Totally agree!

RobUK · 08-12-2018, 01:56 PM

Agree, dazzling car drivers is unnecessary. My (MY 2001) bike has twin headlights which I use dipped during daytime, although I think regs about twin headlights changed at some point such that you're only allowed one light to come on when dipped these days?

I ride regularly and operate on the principle that most car drivers are blissfully unaware of bikes.

ukblade · 08-12-2018, 03:00 PM

Trouble is that when their lights are too high, whether dipped or on main, I find the biggest problem is you just cannot judge their speed towards you, as all you see is light.
Also this "new" fangled use of Aux lights, like used on GS1200's/Explorers quite often seemed badly adjusted and just seem to glare rather than make aware.
This from someone who has ridden every year for 37 years

AlwynMike · 08-13-2018, 02:50 AM

Some drivers make you want to use full beam.
Out with the boys yesterday, green laning.
Single track road with passing places, generally good visibility and sight lines.
Joe car driver, loaded with camping gear on the roof and dogs in the back, pulls out in front of us, then proceeds to drive at 15 mph. I still think he was completely oblivious to the six headlight (dipped) behind him. Chatting away to wifey, fiddling with the twatnav (or phone). Yes, with our machines, we could have taken to the grass verge and overtaken, but we aren't that antisocial.
After 3 miles of this, I pulled into a car park before one of my less even tempered riding buddies did something "humourous"

08-11-2018, 06:57 AM	#1
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Watsey Major General 6399 Rep 8,489 Posts Drives: F31 330D sDrive M Sport Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: On sabbatical. iTrader: (1)	Completely agree. Very off putting and distracting = dangerous. There are other ways to create road presence and therefore awareness from other drivers. EDIT : Even more distracting/dangerous when said bikers sits directly in the line of sight of rear/side mirrors - really blinding. If a flash of my rear fog lights isn't received an understood I'm told that using the front washer jets and windscreen wipers may illicit a change in the biker's position and distance. I'm not saying it's right, but neither is blinding the driver in front. __________________ Current : F31 330sD, remapped, Ohlins Road & Track, Millway camber plates, Quaife LSD, Stoptech brakes + Pagid RSL1 pads all round, Weichers front strut brace, Eibach front & rear anti-roll bars, Michelin MP4S.
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08-11-2018, 07:32 AM	#3
Alscoob Brigadier General 2082 Rep 3,036 Posts Drives: G31 540i M Sport Edition Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Well when I rode a lot there were so many drivers of cars that were blind to anything even it it was right in front of them.... so colourful leathers, fancy lid, colourful bike, race can.... headlight on....they still wouldn't know you were there..... but if you rode properly you would know that they didn't know you were there and acted accordingly, so maybe you would light up their mirror with a couple of flashes maybe. Have to say that today with all these LEd's and day running lights the advantage of the bike headlight is just lost in the array of others, hence some bikes with several lights on the front or the race rep guy with main beam trying to make his candle even brighter. Personally I do agree with you though pisses me off no end.... education of the car driver and biker to some degree, especially the numpty I saw yesterday in a T shirt and shorts would help, but that's never going to happen, so I just guess we'll have to get used to it....although not everyone rides on full beam
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08-11-2018, 02:49 PM	#6
SkyJawa Major General 3716 Rep 8,636 Posts Drives: F10 530d Join Date: May 2014 Location: Hampshire iTrader: (1)	This was country road, cloudy day, under tree canopy, 2 of the twats together doing it. Missus was driving with me in the back, they blinded me let alone her. We could see them just fine even on dipped, full beam was totally unnecessary and downright dangerous.
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08-11-2018, 02:56 PM	#7
Alice Coupe Lieutenant 157 Rep 429 Posts Drives: F36 430dX M Sport Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Scotland iTrader: (0)	Another biker too. I’d rather cyclists and bikers make sure they are seen than chance not being seen. As said earlier, with DRLs and some car headlights being ludicrously bright, a bike can get lost in all this easily these days. That said, I also think there are far more clowns on bikes these days not only taking out some very risk manoeuvres but not thinking about the basic ones. For example, I have no problem with bikes running up he middle of two lanes of traffic, but it’s idoitic doing this on dual carriageway where an on ramp merges. It’s all very well making progress but let’s face it, bike v car, bike is not going to win. No point being correct and dead, ride defensively.
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08-11-2018, 05:27 PM	#8
JustChris General 17483 Rep 25,112 Posts Drives: Tesla MYRWD Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Pisses me off no end. __________________ My car made front page of Bimmerpost
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obert Brigadier General 1781 Rep 4,456 Posts Drives: 2013 328i Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Seattle Wa iTrader: (49)	I agree and it isn’t just bikes here. Seems like everyone from bikes all the way to semi trucks running around in the day with high beams on. It’s like the normal thing to do now. Makes me crazy and blinding.
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Kal101 Major General 3105 Rep 7,031 Posts Drives: 335xd Msport + Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: West mids!!!! iTrader: (0) Garage List 2015 Bmw msport + 3 ... [0.00]	-and let’s not forget the I’m going to turn on my front and rear fog lights as it makes my car look really sporty bruv innit brigade either __________________
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08-12-2018, 08:03 AM	#11
Daftasabrush Fool 1857 Rep 3,542 Posts Drives: F31 340i Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: England iTrader: (0)	Utter bellends IMO. Bikes on full beam mean you can't actually see what they are, or what's around them because their light dazzles you so much. Knobs. __________________
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08-12-2018, 12:40 PM	#12
Rbrown Brigadier General 2763 Rep 4,574 Posts Drives: X3 M40i Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Glasgow iTrader: (0)	Totally agree!
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08-12-2018, 01:56 PM	#13
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ukblade Second Lieutenant 92 Rep 223 Posts Drives: 435d xdrive Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Milton Keynes iTrader: (0)	Trouble is that when their lights are too high, whether dipped or on main, I find the biggest problem is you just cannot judge their speed towards you, as all you see is light. Also this "new" fangled use of Aux lights, like used on GS1200's/Explorers quite often seemed badly adjusted and just seem to glare rather than make aware. This from someone who has ridden every year for 37 years __________________ 2015 F32 435d xDrive MSport, Stripes!! + some goodies
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08-13-2018, 02:50 AM	#15
AlwynMike Lieutenant Colonel 334 Rep 1,659 Posts Drives: F36 440i GC. Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Lincolnshire Flatlands iTrader: (1)	Some drivers make you want to use full beam. Out with the boys yesterday, green laning. Single track road with passing places, generally good visibility and sight lines. Joe car driver, loaded with camping gear on the roof and dogs in the back, pulls out in front of us, then proceeds to drive at 15 mph. I still think he was completely oblivious to the six headlight (dipped) behind him. Chatting away to wifey, fiddling with the twatnav (or phone). Yes, with our machines, we could have taken to the grass verge and overtaken, but we aren't that antisocial. After 3 miles of this, I pulled into a car park before one of my less even tempered riding buddies did something "humourous"
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