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The E90 M3 is so popular though..
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Because some of us want the performance that an M3 offers AND passenger room. Currently it's several thousand $$ cheaper than the coupe as well.
I'd go to this, but I just can't see "upgrading" to another 3er, even if it's an M. X6 is next for me. Last edited by jocamryn; 03-23-2010 at 11:14 PM.. |
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And as far as the platform goes, who the hell cares? The 3 series and 1 series already share some parts anyway. It won't have any detremental effect on the cars. |
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I'm disappointed with the hp of the M3. Just 30 more than the current one. I was expecting close to 500, atleast close to 470
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Anyone read Edmunds' take on the F30? If true, they're claiming that BMW will be following Audi with ALL regular 3-series getting wheezy 4-banger turbo's. Only the M3 will be sticking with the straight six. Yuck! Last thing I want in the next gen 3 is an Honda sounding engine, albeit with more torque, but with a narrower powerband.
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http://www.insideline.com/bmw/3-seri...arly-look.html All I can say is that I call BS on the all 4 cyl 3 series line-up. The M3 will probably have at least 475 hp, and the turbo inline 4 will probably debut with about 250hp in its highest tune. There is definitely going to be something in between there. The reason Audi now offers the A4 with no V6 (in the US anyway) is because they have the S4 in between the A4 and RS4(well, the RS4 is gone now, but you get me), and prior to that almost everyone chose the turbo 4 over the N/A V6 anyway. |
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so they decide to make a GT version of the 3 which is FUGLY... yet they won't keep making the M3 sedan which is gorgeous.
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I swear BMW has lost its core values and is simply fishing for more sales. First was the X3, then the God awful X6, and now GT variants of the 5 and next gen 3 |
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Perhaps that's part of it too, but in any case it all boils to down to a business decision. They weren't making enough money off the N/A V6 offering to justify it anymore. Audi could provide a naturally aspirated V6 with more power of course, but they have most likely decided there is not a strong business case for that option either.
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M3 sedan or touring is the quintessential bimmer IMO. A four door practical sports car that drives like a Porsche. And I would have liked the 5 series double wishbone, but understand the cost savings.
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M3 sedan or touring is the quintessential bimmer IMO. A four door practical sports car that drives like a Porsche. I would have liked the 5 series double wishbone, but understand the cost savings. And there is a ~278 bhp version of the turbo 4, not sure we will see it in USA, hoping for the Z2 to have it.
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see the x3 found a niche though, I'm still not sure bout the X6... I just don't like the styling and think its stupid to have something the same size (smaller on the inside) raised up SUV, the X5 is just as big and raised and the 5 series wagon is there if you don't like the higher up SUV but want the space and Xdrive. With that being said, the X1 looks like it will do well as a smaller subaru inspired type of wagon/suv crossover. The price will probably have a LOT to do with its success. But this GT bullshit is stupid, if people wanted more room in the back from a sedan, they'd buy an E91 or F11 and both of the wagons (IMO) look GOOD unlike this weird ass bubble looking thing they call a GT. I never thought I'd see the day when BMW takes cues from GM (Malibu Maxx)
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Did you forget the sound of an E46 M3?
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Did you forget the sound of an E46 M3?
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Do you think for a second that BMW will take the savings and pass it along to us? Hell no! The next generation Three will cost more and you will get less. The arguments for it are all in the name of maximizing profits at the expense of performance. Look, we are supposed to be an enthusiasts group here, if we don't care who will? We are the ones who should appreciate a great suspension. We should care that they saving design costs by sharing platforms. We pay a premium for these vehicles and that money should go to design--not to short cuts or compromises. |
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Are you saying that the article expressly mentions BMW changing the suspension to a different type than it is today and has been for years? Because that's not what I see at all. You're car has struts and so will the next generation car. That's all that article is saying. Absolutely no technical details beyond that are given. And frankly, even that much is far from confirmed since this article contains info that is shaky at best and it is way to early for this stuff to be confirmed with any certainty. |
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The point is BMW is watering down the essence of Ultimate Driving Machine. We pay for a premium product. I'm not pleased that to save money they are using the same suspension design as a Corolla. |
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Dude.
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...94&hg=31&fg=10 WTF? Quote:
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