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      05-12-2021, 02:37 PM   #221
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Just because it passed one test doesn't mean everything is legal on the car.

That's like saying you have your learners permit so you should have your fia super license and be able to race.
And, most importantly, it is up to the individual teams to PROVE their cars comply with the regulations...not for the FIA to find out what is wrong with the car.

This flexible wing BS is EXACTLY what RBR has done in the past. Habitual cheaters.
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Just because it passed one test doesn't mean everything is legal on the car.

That's like saying you have your learners permit so you should have your fia super license and be able to race.
Passed test and anything else is scaremongering.
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Even F1 admitted that the grid is not diverse enough, and supports Lewis on his efforts.

If you haven't seen that in the past diversity has been a problem in F1, then you are oblivious and blind or just ignorant to it and part of the problem. Thankfully things are changing and Mercedes as a team has been doing a better job

There you go again. You are CLUELESS to say I am blind or ignorant, LOL.

So just as an FYI, I work very closely with Equal Opportunity Managers (EEO) in conducting EEO investigations and there are explicit requirements under the law to PROVE or DISPROVE discrimination.

The fact that you simply LABEL others as Racists or are discriminating based on random posts on an F1 Board, without them stating they are outright racist, and without FACTS to back it up is simply not going to cut the mustard. You are simply a Flame Baiter, of which there are a dime a dozen.
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And, most importantly, it is up to the individual teams to PROVE their cars comply with the regulations...not for the FIA to find out what is wrong with the car.

This flexible wing BS is EXACTLY what RBR has done in the past. Habitual cheaters.
Red Bull have found a way to cheat the flexible wing tests.
They got away with their flexible front wing cheat without penalty in the past...no doubt they will get away with this latest flexible wing cheat as well.
Ferrari got penalised for their fuel flow cheat..I don't get while Red Bull should get away with their cheat.
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      05-12-2021, 04:42 PM   #225
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In contracts, we call this an exclusionary statement. They can do whatever the fk they want.

If you don't think the Olympics is political, go and read some of the articles about site selection. ALL global organizations are political and they are political of the worst stripe: The most competently corrupt politicians who have excelled beyond their local and national markets are on the world stage and run these organizations.
Except that paragraph 2 and NOT paragraph 1 applies to our discussion on this issue my friend.
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Really? Did VER ever get penalized for this idiocy/exceptionally dangerous move? Trying to continue on when he knew had damaged steering/suspension and shedding parts all over the track at the beginning of a race when everyone was tightly packed together still?

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/v...548327799.html
Race 1 - Bahrain .
For exceeding the track limits . While HAM exceeded 29 times the track limits .

Penalized ?
Actually worse . HAM stole the victory !
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Race 1 - Bahrain .
For exceeding the track limits . While HAM exceeded 29 times the track limits .

Penalized ?
Actually worse . HAM stole the victory !
You need a new horse.
You've already beat that one to death.
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What some people call cheating I call creativity. Anyone remember the F-Duct?
If not for driver safety I think it was genius and should have been allowed.

Ferrari Jet Mode was pushing it. Continuing to allowing whatever they were doing with the engine would have opened a huge can of worms.

Red Bulls current wing flexing passes all current scrutinizing. Other teams should be able to do the same if they can figure it out.

IMHO of course, since it seems in vogue to take a giant shit on anything I say

Now, let the flaming begin.
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You need a new horse.
You've already beat that one to death.
Actually I'm having 420 ponies .
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Wings ?

Red Bull gives you wings !

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Race 1 - Bahrain .
For exceeding the track limits . While HAM exceeded 29 times the track limits .

Penalized ?
Actually worse . HAM stole the victory !
Gawd, thatís the best/all you have?
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What some people call cheating I call creativity. Anyone remember the F-Duct?
If not for driver safety I think it was genius and should have been allowed.

Ferrari Jet Mode was pushing it. Continuing to allowing whatever they were doing with the engine would have opened a huge can of worms.

Red Bulls current wing flexing passes all current scrutinizing. Other teams should be able to do the same if they can figure it out.

IMHO of course, since it seems in vogue to take a giant shit on anything I say

Now, let the flaming begin.
Still hasnít worked for RB though so I guess it really isnít an issue regardless of the rules debate.
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Redbull gives you bendy wings. Pretty obvious in the video, but let the excuses fly as always. Sure MB had something to do with it. Lewis did it SMH

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If you want to use your platform as an F1 7 time champ to send a different message go right ahead champ.

Hamilton is making people see and confront the world we live in. I am happy he has shed a light on some of these issues even if its only a passing thought for many people who would likewise never given it a moment.
You are making it simplistic, implying that (for some people, not necessarily you) if you do not support Lewis's political position on racism, you must be racist. There is the folly right there. There are many ways to skin the cat, so to speak. Some will disagree on Lewis's take on racism, some will agree, EVEN THOUGH BOTH ARE AGAINST RACISM.

That is the point right there on why I disagree with mixing politics with sports. What is also apparent is some have the idea that if you disagree with Lewis's position on racism, you must be racist, which is simply idiotic IMO.

So that is why REGARDLESS of political position, whether I agree with it or not, it should NOT be mixed in with sports.

Leave politics to the Politicians in the same way I would not want politicians driving race cars.
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You are making it simplistic, implying that (for some people, not necessarily you) if you do not support Lewis's political position on racism, you must be racist. There is the folly right there. There are many ways to skin the cat, so to speak. Some will disagree on Lewis's take on racism, some will agree, EVEN THOUGH BOTH ARE AGAINST RACISM.

That is the point right there on why I disagree with mixing politics with sports. What is also apparent is some have the idea that if you disagree with Lewis's position on racism, you must be racist, which is simply idiotic IMO.

So that is why REGARDLESS of political position, whether I agree with it or not, it should NOT be mixed in with sports.

Leave politics to the Politicians in the same way I would not want politicians driving race cars.

Bingo!!!

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Yup sad but true, hammy exceeded track limits 29 (twenty nine) times and Max once who was then penalised by Masi.
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Masi ok'd to show off Max's broken down car to Imola town on a breakdown truck for all to see and photograph all of RB's hard work instead of taking it straight back to the RB pits.
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You are making it simplistic, implying that (for some people, not necessarily you) if you do not support Lewis's political position on racism, you must be racist. There is the folly right there. There are many ways to skin the cat, so to speak. Some will disagree on Lewis's take on racism, some will agree, EVEN THOUGH BOTH ARE AGAINST RACISM.

That is the point right there on why I disagree with mixing politics with sports. What is also apparent is some have the idea that if you disagree with Lewis's position on racism, you must be racist, which is simply idiotic IMO.

So that is why REGARDLESS of political position, whether I agree with it or not, it should NOT be mixed in with sports.

Leave politics to the Politicians in the same way I would not want politicians driving race cars.
Speaking generally, its very easy for everyone to say "Im not racist". There are many things in life that will go unknown to billions if you dont see it. I was born in Vermont and did not see many of the issues around with race because the state is almost entirely white. That doesnt make the people that live there racist, just less informed. Lewis is making people see or at least be very mildly aware of the issues and may spark a few people to dig deeper into things and educate themselves on the topic, or maybe not.

I have no problem with it, you do. Its all good. We can both co-exist.

I do disagree with your politicians and racecars dont mix.

Vermont's governor has been a local racecar driver for many years and continues to do so while governor! He is as cool as they come.

https://vtdigger.org/2019/07/03/gov-...oad-speedbowl/

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It's not a directed at you. The F1 subform is not the only place I post so friends see it also.
You pull up to a traffic light and stop next to a family van....and then flip them off....and then you tell them its not directed at them b/c you flip off your friends also....
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Except that paragraph 2 and NOT paragraph 1 applies to our discussion on this issue my friend.
Stick to your HR investigations. You'd get killed in contracts. The entirety of the contract is all that counts.

I have a client that is in breech of one of my contracts and doesn't even realize it yet.

The exclusionary line I called out renders anything afterwards in that clause, moot.
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You pull up to a traffic light and stop next to a family van....and then flip them off....and then you tell them its not direct at them b/c you flip off your friends also....
Whatever, you don't like me and I don't like you. If I were to say some personal specifically to you it would be in person and worded A LOT more harshly.
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Whatever, you don't like me and I don't like you. If I were to say some personal specifically to you it would be in person and worded A LOT more harshly.
Alright all. Lets bring it back to F1. You take this outside after school.
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