G20 Almost Revealed...and press drive reviews this weekend

JustChris · 08-02-2018, 05:24 PM

Next-gen 2019 BMW 3 Series (G20) prototype breaks cover! Spyshots Compilation https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1213988

See last page and post by Scott...

JustChris · 08-02-2018, 05:29 PM

Worrying though. Well respected insider who usually knows all the release dates etc states this article gets almost everything right...surely the G21 Touring doesn't usher in a Porsche rear light copy!

http://www.autobild.de/artikel/bmw-3...t-7071611.html

JD6 · 08-02-2018, 05:32 PM

M340i: all markets, B58, 385hp, automatic RWD (US only) and xDrive, delayed intro.

385hp sounds impressive

JustChris · 08-02-2018, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD6

M340i: all markets, B58, 385hp, automatic RWD (US only) and xDrive, delayed intro.

385hp sounds impressive

Likely not too much reason for a near 500Hp M3/4....

That is a massive outfit for a 'regular' model. Very very impressive indeed. Will push north of &50k base price no doubt.

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dopper99 · 08-02-2018, 05:48 PM

No M340d? teaston will be most upset.

teaston · 08-02-2018, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustChris

Next-gen 2019 BMW 3 Series (G20) prototype breaks cover! Spyshots Compilation https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1213988

See last page and post by Scott...

It looks good in those photos!

He says the countdown begins this weekend though.

teaston · 08-02-2018, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dopper99

No M340d? teaston will be most upset.

What makes you think that? Autobild site includes it, no 330d though!

dopper99 · 08-02-2018, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teaston

What makes you think that? Autobild site includes it, no 330d though!

Its not mentioned in the link in the OP.

https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1213988

teaston · 08-02-2018, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dopper99

Its not mentioned in the link in the OP.

https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1213988

Then I hope the OP is wrong!

ian332isport · 08-03-2018, 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD6

M340i: all markets, B58, 385hp, automatic RWD (US only) and xDrive, delayed intro.

385hp sounds impressive

xDrive only on the 340i doesn’t

R99 · 08-03-2018, 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ian332isport

xDrive only on the 340i doesn’t

Awful if true!

Also - no 330d?! WTF

Tengocity · 08-03-2018, 03:17 AM

The tourer looks particulate good in those renders, so fingers crossed they put the hybrid drivetrain in it.

rossm · 08-03-2018, 07:38 AM

Front end not as nice as the current model imho, rear bumper and diffuser is nice on the Touring though. xDrive only is a deal killer soz

teaston · 08-03-2018, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rossm

Front end not as nice as the current model imho, rear bumper and diffuser is nice on the Touring though. xDrive only is a deal winner

Fixed your comment for you!

JustChris · 08-03-2018, 08:50 AM

Interesting how the X Drive debate rages on still. I guess it's the BMW trademark RWD that drew us all to the brand...however only IMO power and torque have all moved on so greatly, that if BMW is to compete with headline figures that a form of X Drive MSport is needed. 385HP is pretty meaty and the early G82 I had was terrible at putting down 431HP.

it will be a never ending discussion. I suppose the best option would be options for all tastes, however testing and WLTP or whatever will mean less variants rather than more.

....,,,,..,,.. · 08-03-2018, 09:15 AM

Remember these are LHD reviews I remember at some point BMW (I think) said the 340i could not have xdrive in RHD, space, heat or something.

However I would love a high bhp 340i xdrive Hearse as long as they fix that damn suspension.

I like manual
I like AWD
I like Hearse
I like petrol

225 · 08-03-2018, 09:48 AM

I'm sure we will find out soon enough but alot of sites still quoting 360bhp for m340 which is too low in this day and age.

Anyway touring looks good and just under 2 years should be a good time to nab an m340 touring, having been out for a bit and normal 20% discounts should have kicked in.

pdk42 · 08-03-2018, 09:49 AM

Styling wise it doesn't look much different from the current model.

48V electrical system?

Any bets on list for 340i and when we'll see any discounts?

....,,,,..,,.. · 08-03-2018, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 225

I'm sure we will find out soon enough but alot of sites still quoting 360bhp for m340 which is too low in this day and age.

Anyway touring looks good and just under 2 years should be a good time to nab an m340 touring, having been out for a bit and normal 20% discounts should have kicked in.

2 years left on my PCP... amazing coincidence.

ian332isport · 08-03-2018, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pdk42

48V electrical system?

Higher voltage, means lower current. Lower current allows thinner wires. Thinner wires equals less weight. Less weight equals better fuel consumption and performance.

Lower current also puts less load on the electrical system, so probably gains to be had there too.

Ian.

teaston · 08-03-2018, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ian332isport

Quote:

Originally Posted by pdk42

48V electrical system?

Higher voltage, means lower current. Lower current allows thinner wires. Thinner wires equals less weight. Less weight equals better fuel consumption and performance.

Lower current also puts less load on the electrical system, so probably gains to be had there too.

Ian.

The 48v system doesn't replace the 12v system, it is in addition to it:

JustChris · 08-03-2018, 11:54 AM

It's getting to that time...! Grab any F3X deals while you can..then it's see us all over at the G20 boards....once there is a uk section...and I probably still won't have a 3 series...but bants yo

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