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I hate Halogens in every BMW cause they do not have the Angel Eyes looks...no matter how good they are!
LED lights are damn sexy!
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The LED options do look nice. Glad to know we can spend $1000 for a non-functioning feature. good jaerb DOT.
Does anyone know if the angel eyes/rings or any other accent lighting turns off when you use your blinkers? I know audi dos this and I cant effing stand it. Some dumb safety thing, because turning lights off always makes you more visible. lol. |
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The "full" Adaptive LED lights are really "Adaptive with anti dazzle" The "anti dazzle" bit is what some refer to as "tunneling" and the bit not available in the US. Now for example the 6 Series came out with only "adaptive LED" even in Europe and you need the 6 Series LCI to get "Adaptive with anti dazzle" "Adaptive LED" work just like "Adaptive Xenons" in that they can swivel as you turn the steering wheel. The US DOT regulations dont allow the "anti dazzle" part yet, but the rest of the adaptive parts are ok. Some in the US, especially F10 owners, have activated the "anti dazzle" via coding and found it works. My guess now is BMW USA will offer adaptive LED as a option, since it does add the features found on adaptive Xenons and at one stage the DOT may approve the system and then its just a software update to enable it.
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Looks like it broke or something each time you put your blinkers on I don't think the BMWs do this, but I'll check tomorrow morning :P
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So Adaptive means road following, like they have had for ~8 years? This is not the same as the laser based illumination that changes light output shape around oncoming traffic or cars in front. That is the tech that the DOT has not allowed yet?
Edit: I didnt realize the anit-dazzle bits were part of the LED light package too. |
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The "Adaptive" in Xenons is not in the same league as the Adaptive LED, as the only feature is cornering lights. The DOT problem with the Adaptive LED is the anti-dazzle and the variable light distribution -the amount of light that is projected does not meet US standards. This is just a matter of study and then approval as DOT always has been into the headlight regulation heavily in the USA since I remember (sealed beams anybody?). Last edited by Technic; 05-12-2015 at 02:51 PM.. |
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Only the i8 has laser right now. New 7 Series will get it later. The non-US adaptive LED with anti dazzle "changes light output shape around oncoming traffic or cars in front." No lasers involved
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Interesting comparison. Seeing these types of illustrations makes me mad that BMW would "lower" itself by using such primitive, inferior lighting solutions on what are supposed to be premium vehicles. All BMW's should have angel eyes and xenons at least. LED's should be an upgrade, not a necessity because the halogens are so terrible.
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The ultimate nickel and dime machine. I bet it costs much more to R&D several lighting options rather than 2; an entry level LED and advanced LED unit; Suppose it has more to do with marketing than anything else.
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Goodness, the halogen ones look like garbage compared to the LED
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Someone please convey the message to BMW
Halogens are a thing of the past, why offer them AT ALL? They are garbage
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Halogens do look bad. At least the E90 LCI halogens had an angel eye type design and more closely resembled the xenons.
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Its a way to keep the prices within company car/ tax/ insurance/ ect ect brackets. You want a Xenon/LED 320i or a Halogen 328i ? Or a Passat or a Halogen 320i
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Unless the LCI software continues the current stance to be made harder to code
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FWIW, the DOT lighting code ends up about 46 pages long, and defines some things like requiring a high/low beam indication and control to the driver, and specific light positions, heights, illumination levels, and beam patterns. The full adaptive system needs LOTS of things to be modified in the codes before they would be legal for use in the USA. It would be nice if they moved faster than a glacier, or if they allowed cross-certification as in, if it's legal in say the EuroZone, it would be legal in the USA as well. They've been talking about that for years, but it has not happened...trying to get rid of or usurp some authority of a government agency is really hard to do!
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I have it coded on my 4 and still have an issue with blinding those driving in front of me even though I clearly see the beam moving right and left of the vehicle in my path. Perhaps the FLA cam isn't up to par and we need KAFAS.
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Halogen is really laughable for a $33k base price car. They could've implemented a cheap Chinese HID & that would've been a better alternative than halogen.
Even $16k Toyota Corollas have LED headlights. What a shame.
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