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LL01 etc. do designate year when introduced. However, they go through updates as new engines see the light of day. Initially, LL01 had test based on M54 engine. Once N generation was introduced, LL01 was updated to include N52 engine test and requirements were based around issues specific to N5X and N6X generation of engines. In 2018 LL01 was again updated to include N20 test with specific test for timing chain protection. LL04 was initially "diesel " oil. Tests were based on M47 and M57 engines. With introduction of ULAG in EU, LL04 was updated to include N52 engine test, same like LL01. Since then both LL01 and LL04 have same engine tests. In addition LL04 has DPF/GPF pollution tests. ILSAC GF-6 (same like before 4and 5) is energy conserving oil. It has HTHS around 3 for W30 oils (LL01 and LL04 are minimum 3.5 regardless of grade). BMW and other European approvals have much stricter deposits, evaporation loss, stay in grade, oxidation requirements. HTHS is the key here. It is resistance of oil to temporary or permanent loss of viscosity. Higher HTHS, more resistance to viscosity breakdown. ILSAC GF oils are by nature low HTHS oil bcs. they are energy conserving oils. That is why I said, LL01 and LL04 cannot be ILSAC GF6 as those are not energy conserving oils since HTHS is 3.5 minimum. Timing chain test that API SP oils have is generic test. It is based on Toyota 2.5 4cyl engine. Why would anyone who owns BMW with N20 engine buy that oil when all BMW approvals (LL01, LL01 FE, LL04, LL12, 14, 17 and 19) have BMW specific timing chain test? I personally cannot understand that. LSPI test is also involved in 2018 updated BMW approvals. However, MB229.52 has most stringent LSPI test. API SP and ILSAC oils don't have nearly as stringent LSPI test as European manufacturers have. |
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Again, for future reader’s benefit, this oil is a fine choice on a stock platform, medium duty max application on a 5K OCI. Power mods, track use, extended changes would require a better selection. I am curious, however, to try the Castrol XW-40 or Quaker State Euro that have the LL-01, MB 229.52, and Porsche A40 certs and see what the UOA shows. All are about the same price as the PPE 5W-30 and are just as easy to find.
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Take into consideration that Pennzoil is really shady when it comes to actual performance numbers of oils. Their PDS are all over the place. MB229.52 cannot be LL01 or Porsche A40. LL01, Porsche A40 and MB229.5 are high SAPS oils. MB229.51 and MB229.52 VW504.00/507.00 and LL04 are low SAPS oils. So far I have not seen MB229.52 in Wal Mart. Plenty online! |
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