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      02-23-2018, 03:12 PM   #67
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Dont believe so, the engine is too new. But i may be wrong
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Available for 2018 430i?
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      02-23-2018, 06:47 PM   #69
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Had the AA stage 2 on my car for almost a week now, I have to say as a previous jb4 owner, it only gets BETTER! The car pulls so much stronger throughout the whole range, the burbles... ahhh... just like music to my ears!
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F30 328 Stock vs Active Autowerke stage 1 +24 whp / +68 wtq
the hp gains seem much lower than dinan?

https://www.dinancars.com/product/d4...-528i-n20-ewg/

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the gains seem much lower than dinan?

https://www.dinancars.com/product/d4...-528i-n20-ewg/
Dinan numbers are not to the wheels

Dinan TQ gains is 68 torque to the crank, thats about 55 to the wheels
Active TQ is 68 tq to the wheels

They are also using 93 Octane on that Dinan graph
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      02-28-2018, 01:09 PM   #72
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Dinan numbers are not to the wheels

Dinan TQ gains is 68 torque to the crank, thats about 55 to the wheels
Active TQ is 68 tq to the wheels

They are also using 93 Octane on that Dinan graph
uh I'm seeing on dinan's website 311hp and 328lbft crank and assuming 15% drivetrain loss for rwd.

311-47 is 264hp vs 249 on AA
328-50 is 278lbft vs 318 on AA

those numbers are quite a bit different. is this just from using different dynos?

edit: both AA and dinan measured the same exact stock numbers when you factor in 15% drivetrain loss. 268hp and 290lbft crank is just about 225hp/250lbft to the wheels

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uh I'm seeing on dinan's website 311hp and 328lbft crank and assuming 15% drivetrain loss for rwd.

311-47 is 264hp
328-50 is 278lbft

those numbers are a good bit higher than AA is this just from using different dynos?
Yes different dynos read differently also different octane.

If you look at the dyno closely you will see AA making a lot more power up to 4000 RPM (50% more power) but the higher the RPM is the closer the power of the 2 gets.

Considering AA is in Miami, i think the car they used was suffering from heat soak due to stock intercooler or needed more octane to keep making same power on high RPM.
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Yes different dynos read differently also different octane.

If you look at the dyno closely you will see AA making a lot more power up to 4000 RPM (50% more power) but the higher the RPM is the closer the power of the 2 gets.

Considering AA is in Miami, i think the car they used was suffering from heat soak due to stock intercooler or needed more octane to keep making same power on high RPM.
what octane was used?
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what octane was used?
Dinan was 93
Active was 91 i believe
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      02-28-2018, 01:41 PM   #76
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Dinan was 93
Active was 91 i believe
thanks! makes alot of sense now. btw I'm asking for a coworker. I have a N55 w/ MHD
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thanks! makes alot of sense now. btw I'm asking for a coworker. I have a N55 w/ MHD
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Is the Simon cable any different from an ENET cable? The price jump when the cable is added seems a bit on the high side
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Is the Simon cable any different from an ENET cable? The price jump when the cable is added seems a bit on the high side
Yes Simon cable is different. You wont be able to load any maps unless you use the Simon cable
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The 328 from the dyno above is getting strapped back onto the dyno today for some stage 2 Flash tuning. Results soon to follow

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The 328 from the dyno above is getting strapped back onto the dyno today for some stage 2 Flash tuning. Results soon to follow
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The 328 from the dyno above is getting strapped back onto the dyno today for some stage 2 Flash tuning. Results soon to follow
Do let us know what are the stage 2 mods (i.e. wagner catless downpipe, ER FMIC)
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The 328 from the dyno above is getting strapped back onto the dyno today for some stage 2 Flash tuning. Results soon to follow
Interested to see the numbers! I used you guys for my e90 328 with fantastic results.
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Do let us know what are the stage 2 mods (i.e. wagner catless downpipe, ER FMIC)

Wagner cat-less dp is the only mod on this car.
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The 328 from the dyno above is getting strapped back onto the dyno today for some stage 2 Flash tuning. Results soon to follow
Can't wait to see the numbers. I'm itching for a good reason to go with this tune, DP, FMIC and pipes. Been waiting a while now for my N26.

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The 328 from the dyno above is getting strapped back onto the dyno today for some stage 2 Flash tuning. Results soon to follow
Can't wait to see results. I'm ready to get rid of my JB4 and go full flash route. It's between this and BM3.

Mods are in my sig.
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Can't wait to see results. I'm ready to get rid of my JB4 and go full flash route. It's between this and BM3.

Mods are in my sig.
If you are looking for an Off the shelf map, AA is the way to go.

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