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      12-09-2014, 01:36 PM   #133
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I agree with your larger point, but I'd bet the new engines will also deliver a notable improvement in fuel efficiency and emissions reduction.
Ok, feel free to trade in your BMW and take a $20-30k hit so you can save 1-3mpg or $300 a year in gas.
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Any idea when we'll see an F80/82 LCI?

Do u even know when the F80/82 LCI start production?
F80 LCI will start production the same time that F30 LCI starts.

Likewise, F82 and F32 will be on the same schedule (probably 8-12 months after F30/80 LCI).
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I agree with your larger point, but I'd bet the new engines will also deliver a notable improvement in fuel efficiency and emissions reduction.
Ok, feel free to trade in your BMW and take a $20-30k hit so you can save 1-3mpg or $300 a year in gas.
I don't pay for fuel so this improvement has zero value to me personally. I was speaking generally.
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Jason,

Any idea when we'll see an F80/82 LCI?

Do u even know when the F80/82 LCI start production?

Same start of production as F30 LCI. F82 updates come a year later, with the F32 LCI.


F30 LCI/ F80 LCI - Start of production July 2015 (2016 MY)
F32 LCI/ F82 LCI - Start of production July 2016 (2017 MY)
Are u serious? So if my F80 is arriving at my place in March, roughly 3 months later they'll start LCI production?

I'm better off waiting a few months then...
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I'd give it a few years, f30 came out in 2012, LCI 2015. f80 came out 2014, LCI 2017?

thats what I think.

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Are u serious? So if my F80 is arriving at my place in March, roughly 3 months later they'll start LCI production?

I'm better off waiting a few months then...
Hmm I don't know if that's right, I would think BMW would give the pre-LCI M3 at least 2 years of production in the states, so that the LCI F80 would come out Summer 2016. Then again, the M3 was facelifted the same year as the 3 series with the E90 chassis, so maybe BMW will do as they please.

But being an early adopter has downsides ...

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F30 335i with n55 becomes 340i with b58 engine (rumored 340hp).

F30 328i with n20 becomes 330i with n20 engine, to be update din the future with b48 engine.


So confusing. I think I got it right. Please correct me if I'm wrong because I'm frickin confused too. Tried to keep it together while posting.


330i will only use the B48, not N20. If the B48 isn't ready for the 330, then it'll be pushed to Summer of 2016.
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Are u serious? So if my F80 is arriving at my place in March, roughly 3 months later they'll start LCI production?

I'm better off waiting a few months then...

Yup. See this thread.


Will the LCI M3 follow the F30?
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      12-09-2014, 02:28 PM   #139
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Ok, feel free to trade in your BMW and take a $20-30k hit so you can save 1-3mpg or $300 a year in gas.
Ha. True. I need a 4 door now and I would love to wait for the LCI. I don't care about the engine. I'm adding the MPPK and the MPE, and my car will be fast enough with the N55. If I need more power (which I prob won't); I'll add the Dinantronics.

I just want LED Head Lights. I love them on my 4.
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LCI with LED Tail Lights?
who could have known that!
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they really need to change the interior of the current 3. I definitely like the design and with the right leather trim it looks luxurious however the new c class' interior is head and shoulders above it.
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      12-09-2014, 03:05 PM   #142
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Looks pretty clear that the headlights are getting the 4 series concept "L" treatment.

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Jason,

Any idea when we'll see an F80/82 LCI?

Do u even know when the F80/82 LCI start production?

Same start of production as F30 LCI. F82 updates come a year later, with the F32 LCI.


F30 LCI/ F80 LCI - Start of production July 2015 (2016 MY)
F32 LCI/ F82 LCI - Start of production July 2016 (2017 MY)
Are u serious? So if my F80 is arriving at my place in March, roughly 3 months later they'll start LCI production?

I'm better off waiting a few months then...
Same exact thing happened with the E90M and F10M. It's part of BMW's standard product cycle.
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Jason,

Any idea when we'll see an F80/82 LCI?

Do u even know when the F80/82 LCI start production?
If it is anything like the last M3. They will only get the tail light update.
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Wish we could get the 335 wagon in the U.S.
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If it is anything like the last M3. They will only get the tail light update.
Or, if it's like the current F10 M5, it will get the taillight AND headlight upgrade.
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If it is anything like the last M3. They will only get the tail light update.
E46 and E90 M3 both saw only taillight facelift, but BMW hasn't trended this way for more recent M vehicles:

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Or, if it's like the current F10 M5, it will get the taillight AND headlight upgrade.
I think to stay competitive I'd expect the LCI features of all future M cars to incorporate those from the non-M line.
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I hope they have something good planned for the interior.

Surprise us with something cool too!
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      12-09-2014, 04:53 PM   #149
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Will the LED headlights replace Xenons or will it be an extra option?
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      12-09-2014, 05:38 PM   #150
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Or, if it's like the current F10 M5, it will get the taillight AND headlight upgrade.
Remember that the F80 and F82 both share the headlights from the F32, not the F30. As the F32 is not getting an LCI yet, the F80 will only get updates to its taillights.

This wasn't applicable on the F10M, since it shares both the headlights and taillights with the F10.

The real question is: Will the F80 and F82 get the F32 LCI headlights as part of that refresh? The E90M and E92M did not get the E92 LCI headlights, because BMW changed the bumper design to accommodate the updated shape of the headlights (and presumably didn't want to spend the money to update the bumper designs on the E9x LCI M3).

Will the F32 LCI headlights get a different shape? If so, that likely means that the F80 and F82 won't get an update. If the F32 LCI headlights stay the same shape, it's a safe bet to assume that the F82 LCI will get the new lights, but it'll be interesting to see if the F80 LCI does as well. It would mean a second LCI of sorts for the F80 in 2016.
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Looks pretty clear that the headlights are getting the 4 series concept "L" treatment.

I would say C treatment, L treatment if it had a more right angled design
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Wish we could get the 335 wagon in the U.S.
Agree. I also wish that they offered sunroof delete, RWD, and even a 320i wagon.

Back when I bought my E90 335i ED, I would have gone for a wagon had it been available with the N55/manual and no sunroof (extra weight where you don't need it).
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Wish we could get the 335 wagon in the U.S.
Agree. I also wish that they offered sunroof delete, RWD, and even a 320i wagon.

Back when I bought my E90 335i ED, I would have gone for a wagon had it been available with the N55/manual and no sunroof (extra weight where you don't need it).
Same here! A 340i b58 wagon with a 6spd manual and awd would be a winner! The 335xi was available with the manual, how hard can it be to offer it with the touring? Because of that the v60 t6 has no competition from BMW.
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Someone else was saying the B48 and B58 wouldn't hit until Summer 2016, but I'm glad that rumor is wrong. The LED's and better engines already have me sold.

Can't wait to get myself into a 2016 for real cheap when my lease is up July 2016!
Let's hold off on calling them better engines.
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