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      05-12-2017, 06:09 AM   #89
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To understand your Problem you have to know that the ASD hardware(ASD ECU) is the same in all models. F10, F20, F30 all have the same ASD ECU. But the swfl version, the software in the ASD ECU, is different. So if you want the B48 engine sound you need a car model the engine was in from factory. So F3x with swfl 000021d4 should be fine.

BUT BMW changed the ASD Software in the middle of 2015. At this point all fdl changes in the ASD, Car Model or Engine shuts off the ASD. So you have to flash the ASD Ecu with a psdzdata before P3.56.1 or 15-07-502.
I understand. But I know when I was done with installing the unit I wasn't able to flash it as a regular ECU, as the one I got was never fitted in an F30 (checked the item number). So atzebmw's friend helped me out and was able to flash it (making it think it was in an F10) and making it work with my F30.

The version of the psdzdata used was 3.55.0.100 (using E-sys 3.24.3), so I should be fine right?

These are the settings which is working, I have tried changing Power Class but I'm not sure if it makes any difference.


Using Stereo as I have the base audio in my F30. Construction stage is a bit later than my build date (201207).

So by your information I should be able to use different engine types, do you have any ideas on how to make it work?
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      05-12-2017, 06:31 AM   #90
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Can you post a picture where i can see the swfl, btld und HWEL version?
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      05-12-2017, 07:14 AM   #91
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Can you post a picture where i can see the swfl, btld und HWEL version?
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      05-12-2017, 12:20 PM   #92
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SWFL 0000111F is F10 Software. You need to flash SWFL 000021d4 for F30.
As i wrote psdzdata before P3.56.1.

Do you know how?
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      05-15-2017, 12:44 AM   #93
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SWFL 0000111F is F10 Software. You need to flash SWFL 000021d4 for F30.
As i wrote psdzdata before P3.56.1.

Do you know how?
Problem is that it isn't possible to flash the F30 SWFL, it was not possible to make it work with the car. I could not detect CAFD after flashing F30. So the only solution which atzebmw's friend helped me with was to flash the ASD as an F10 ASD and now I was able to make it work with my F30.
Do you know which psdzdata version for F10?
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      05-16-2017, 04:18 AM   #94
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Problem is that it isn't possible to flash the F30 SWFL, it was not possible to make it work with the car. I could not detect CAFD after flashing F30. So the only solution which atzebmw's friend helped me with was to flash the ASD as an F10 ASD and now I was able to make it work with my F30.
Do you know which psdzdata version for F10?
Wasnt it possible to flash the F30 swfl or didnt the ASD work with the F30 swfl flashed?
I flashed my ASD from F20 swfl to F30.
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      05-16-2017, 04:29 AM   #95
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Wasnt it possible to flash the F30 swfl or didnt the ASD work with the F30 swfl flashed?
I flashed my ASD from F20 swfl to F30.
It did not flash at all, this was the flash result:
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Here's a quote from the person I got help from:
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You’re right, the software onto your ASD is too old for your car. You have to flash the ECU to a higher i-level. Do you know the procedure to calculate a TAL (incl. HW detection if it’s neccessary)?

The TAL calculation should be done with the VO from the M5. It’s only neccessary to get the correct new BTL and SWFL files. The cdDeploy (inject a CAFD) should be done afterwards, after you flashed the ASD with new bootloader and new swfl files.
So the only solution was to flash it as an F10 ASD.
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      05-16-2017, 06:32 AM   #96
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If you want i can try it. Seems this guy dont have the correct software to flash the ecu.

Did you know the I step your car has at the moment??
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      05-16-2017, 06:40 AM   #97
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If you want i can try it. Seems this guy dont have the correct software to flash the ecu.

Did you know the I step your car has at the moment??
The picture shown is me trying to flash it. The guy who helped me was really good at this, and this was the only solution according to him. I really don't want to screw it up as it works now. But I want to be able to switch settings.

Do you mean I-Level actual?
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      05-16-2017, 06:47 AM   #98
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The picture shown is me trying to flash it. The guy who helped me was really good at this, and this was the only solution according to him. I really don't want to screw it up as it works now. But I want to be able to switch settings.

Do you mean I-Level actual?
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Yes this is that i mean.

Do you have esys premium or pro? Did you have teamviewer?
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      05-16-2017, 06:52 AM   #99
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Yes this is that i mean.

Do you have esys premium or pro? Did you have teamviewer?
Good question, I don't know actually, during the flash I think we started it without the launcher (E-sys 3.24.3).

Yes, teamviewer.
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You can flash without but for fdl coding you need premium or pro.

Do you have whats app for you mobile phone?
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      05-16-2017, 10:01 AM   #101
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If you want i can try it. Seems this guy dont have the correct software to flash the ecu.

Did you know the I step your car has at the moment??
You want to know who was this guy?
I'm sure you know him.

Willst du wissen wer das war?
Ich bin sicher du kennst ihn.

Das war der Oliver aka milk101.
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You want to know who was this guy?
I'm sure you know him.

Willst du wissen wer das war?
Ich bin sicher du kennst ihn.

Das war der Oliver aka milk101.
No dont need to know because it dont help anyone but thanks.
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No dont need to know because it dont help anyone but thanks.
Doch, es würde dir vielleicht helfen, da du oben geschrieben hast "Seems this guy dont have the correct software to flash the ecu".
Und wer den Oliver kennt (eigentlich fast jeder der BMWs codieren kann), der weiß auch, dass er alles da hat.
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No dont need to know because it dont help anyone but thanks.
I really don't want to reflash it, as it was not easy for Oliver to get it working. And he tried flashing it as an F30 ECU too.

As you know which the last version of the ASD for the F30 is, where you can change settings, engines and chassi. Are you able to find out which version of the F10 ECU this changed. If it is the same as the F30 I should be able to change engine model. Maybe there is some other setting, like Power Class not matching.

I've read that power class has to match the FA, but I have no Power Class in my FA, and when set to F10+N20B20 I can set whatever powerclass I like, and they all sound the same. But when changing engine I loose the sound completely, so maybe I have it set to the wrong power class?
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I really don't want to reflash it, as it was not easy for Oliver to get it working. And he tried flashing it as an F30 ECU too.

As you know which the last version of the ASD for the F30 is, where you can change settings, engines and chassi. Are you able to find out which version of the F10 ECU this changed. If it is the same as the F30 I should be able to change engine model. Maybe there is some other setting, like Power Class not matching.

I've read that power class has to match the FA, but I have no Power Class in my FA, and when set to F10+N20B20 I can set whatever powerclass I like, and they all sound the same. But when changing engine I loose the sound completely, so maybe I have it set to the wrong power class?

Dont know there the problem is to flash a ASD. I also have some software versions of the F10 ASD at home. Will try these on my ASD and post the results.

Vehicle I Step seems also have a effect on the function of the ASD. Powerclass dont effect anything at my ASD and i have a new 11-16.
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Dont know there the problem is to flash a ASD. I also have some software versions of the F10 ASD at home. Will try these on my ASD and post the results.

Vehicle I Step seems also have a effect on the function of the ASD. Powerclass dont effect anything at my ASD and i have a new 11-16.
Is my Vehicle I Step good enought?

Ok, maybe the production year has an effect?
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Is my Vehicle I Step good enought?

Ok, maybe the production year has an effect?
That question i cant answer.

Production year is also relevant as far as i know.
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If you want i can try it. Seems this guy dont have the correct software to flash the ecu.

Did you know the I step your car has at the moment??
I recently got an ASD module from a 2016 F80 M3...I put it in my 2012 328i and am trying to figure out how to get other sounds other than the M3/M4 S55 sound. It shuts off with any other settings. Do you have any ideas for this one? The part number is 6820695. Do I have to flash a different firmware?
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I recently got an ASD module from a 2016 F80 M3...I put it in my 2012 328i and am trying to figure out how to get other sounds other than the M3/M4 S55 sound. It shuts off with any other settings. Do you have any ideas for this one? The part number is 6820695. Do I have to flash a different firmware?
I think you have to flash an older firmware.
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I think you have to flash an older firmware.
do you know which version it needs to be downgraded to?
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