[teaston]

I wonder how far into your PCP you have to be before they'll do this?

[MarkG_M5Comp]

Originally Posted by teaston

I wonder how far into your PCP you have to be before they'll do this?

I'm 27 months into my car and have made the change...

I'm 4 months into my wife's car and they said it was fine to change that too...

Keep in mind when ordering a new car you are credit approved when they take the deposit; so I can order my X5 in March, get approved - then VT in July and I already have the finance agreed on the new car.

In fact, because the first payment on the new car comes out of your account 30 days after signing, I could actually keep both cars for a month as an overlap.

[teaston]

Originally Posted by MarkG335

I'm 27 months into my car and have made the change...

I'm 4 months into my wife's car and they said it was fine to change that too...

Keep in mind when ordering a new car you are credit approved when they take the deposit; so I can order my X5 in March, get approved - then VT in July and I already have the finance agreed on the new car.

In fact, because the first payment on the new car comes out of your account 30 days after signing, I could actually keep both cars for a month as an overlap.

Only 4 months into your wifes car is good news!

That's it, i'm changing the 335d to 10k pa!

[MarkG_M5Comp]

Originally Posted by teaston

Only 4 months into your wifes car is good news!

That's it, i'm changing the 335d to 10k pa!

Nothing to lose really...

[Tengocity]

Originally Posted by MarkG335

I'm 27 months into my car and have made the change...

I'm 4 months into my wife's car and they said it was fine to change that too...

Keep in mind when ordering a new car you are credit approved when they take the deposit; so I can order my X5 in March, get approved - then VT in July and I already have the finance agreed on the new car.

In fact, because the first payment on the new car comes out of your account 30 days after signing, I could actually keep both cars for a month as an overlap.

Whoa! What's this X5 talk?!

[MarkG_M5Comp]

Originally Posted by Tengocity

Whoa! What's this X5 talk?!

No?

I may be wooed

[Tengocity]

Originally Posted by MarkG335

No?

I may be wooed

Nothing wrong with it, just the first that I'd heard of it!

I was thinking of them too, in my quest for more motorway refinement, but the consumption is a bit high relative to the performance on offer compared to a saloon or coupe, hence my 5/6 series thoughts.

[JustChris]

FFS I need that car pronto!! This is incredible.

[MarkG_M5Comp]

Originally Posted by Tengocity

Nothing wrong with it, just the first that I'd heard of it!

I was thinking of them too, in my quest for more motorway refinement, but the consumption is a bit high relative to the performance on offer compared to a saloon or coupe, hence my 5/6 series thoughts.

I know, my indecision is ridiculous.

I went in to talk M3 for me or X3 for the wife (we me taking the 135). Truth is I want the refinement and now is not the time to buy a 5 series. It doesn't make sense to have an M3 and a 135 (Guy - it makes no sense!) and when we spoke about X3s, I'm told I can get an X5 40d for similar money.

Residuals are silly.... still worth £30k after 4 years.

We'll see, in going to borrow another demonstrator - had the 30d before so the 40d may look just add a bit.

[teaston]

The X5 is a behemoth of a car though!

Did you know the current X3 is the same size as the original X5?

I'd rather have an X3, or even an X1!

[Tengocity]

Originally Posted by MarkG335

I know, my indecision is ridiculous.

I went in to talk M3 for me or X3 for the wife (we me taking the 135). Truth is I want the refinement and now is not the time to buy a 5 series. It doesn't make sense to have an M3 and a 135 (Guy - it makes no sense!) and when we spoke about X3s, I'm told I can get an X5 40d for similar money.

Residuals are silly.... still worth £30k after 4 years.

We'll see, in going to borrow another demonstrator - had the 30d before so the 40d may look just add a bit.

I completely know the feeling. I swing from me getting a 5/6 and wife getting 335d, to me keeping the 335d and getting an E90 M3 for her. But then she suggests she have a look at the job market in the next year or so, in which case we need to be prepared for her commuting more often, which ruins the M3 idea.

She loves the 335d though and we want to keep it for many years yet, hence the idea for it to go to her and me get something more of a motorway cruiser. Like you I don't want to get in to a new 5 at this stage, and so getting a used 5/6 to try out for 12-24 months before buying a new 5 seems a good idea.

And I buy a 3rd car for fun... 987 Boxster S Manual top of that list.

Have you considered an X4 or X6?

I've been in a few X3's... don't think they're much better than a 3 series for on road refinement tbh

[teaston]

Originally Posted by Tengocity

I completely know the feeling. I swing from me getting a 5/6 and wife getting 335d, to me keeping the 335d and getting an E90 M3 for her. But then she suggests she have a look at the job market in the next year or so, in which case we need to be prepared for her commuting more often, which ruins the M3 idea.

She loves the 335d though and we want to keep it for many years yet, hence the idea for it to go to her and me get something more of a motorway cruiser. Like you I don't want to get in to a new 5 at this stage, and so getting a used 5/6 to try out for 12-24 months before buying a new 5 seems a good idea.

And I buy a 3rd car for fun... 987 Boxster S Manual top of that list.

Have you considered an X4 or X6?

I've been in a few X3's... don't think they're much better than a 3 series for on road refinement tbh

Oh I thought the X3 would be more refined with its high soft suspension.

I think wait for the G30 5 Series Mark!

[Tengocity]

Originally Posted by teaston

Oh I thought the X3 would be more refined with its high soft suspension.

I think wait for the G30 5 Series Mark!

It's the ride comfort, it's the road noise, engine noise, wind noise and overall sense of refinement that's the issue. Also things like the 5/6/X5 seats beating that bit bigger and more comfortable too.

[teaston]

Originally Posted by Tengocity

It's the ride comfort, it's the road noise, engine noise, wind noise and overall sense of refinement that's the issue. Also things like the 5/6/X5 seats beating that bit bigger and more comfortable too.

Yes I definitely get it now since driving that 5 series for a few weeks. It spoilt me really, before that I thought the F30 was quite refined!

I am hoping the adaptive suspenders will make a bit of an improvement.

Also no doubt a premium touring tyre would make a noticable difference over the ultra high performance MPSS.

[Tengocity]

Originally Posted by teaston

Also no doubt a premium touring tyre would make a noticable difference over the ultra high performance MPSS.

Yes, there are definitely quieter tyres out there.

[MarkG_M5Comp]

The G30 (is that what is called?!) may be the best thing out there in a few months but the deals won't be there in time for me.

I do feel the X5 is a cut above, refined and loaded with kit, option for 7 seats.

The X3 doesn't do a great deal for me and would have to be the wife's car - and she just got a new one! You can't get the steering wheel we all love and in fact the cabin is rather average (actually feels quite small!). Also, load area isn't significantly greater that an F30/1.

Not a done deal yet.... might look at a 7....

[teaston]

Originally Posted by MarkG335

The G30 (is that what is called?!) may be the best thing out there in a few months but the deals won't be there in time for me.

I do feel the X5 is a cut above, refined and loaded with kit, option for 7 seats.

The X3 doesn't do a great deal for me and would have to be the wife's car - and she just got a new one! You can't get the steering wheel we all love and in fact the cabin is rather average (actually feels quite small!). Also, load area isn't significantly greater that an F30/1.

Not a done deal yet.... might look at a 7....

Yes new 5 series will be G30, and new 3 series will be G20, god knows why not G10 & G30!

I'd prefer a 7 to an X5 tbh, sat in one in Coopers and it did feel a very special place to be! And the new 730d is lighter than the current 530d due to the use of CF! And has the new more powerful and economical engine.

[MarkG_M5Comp]

The new 7 is amazing isn't it... now big discount and pricey so no way!

[teaston]

Originally Posted by MarkG335

The new 7 is amazing isn't it... now big discount and pricey so no way!

It is, and great as a sign of what's to come with the 5 series!

[ZeroFx]

I really dont rate the current 335d or 3 series in general. They got the looks good but everything else just isnt. Road noise, ride comfort, sticky up satnav screen. Hard seat bases. Steering wheel is shite, annoying button layout.

I think next gen 5 and 7 based models are going to be such a massive improvement on current cars. Im not sure BMW will do enough to the next 3 though, they just keep cutting corners on the 3.

[teaston]

Originally Posted by ZeroFx

I really dont rate the current 335d or 3 series in general. They got the looks good but everything else just isnt. Road noise, ride comfort, sticky up satnav screen. Hard seat bases. Steering wheel is shite, annoying button layout.

I think next gen 5 and 7 based models are going to be such a massive improvement on current cars. Im not sure BMW will do enough to the next 3 though, they just keep cutting corners on the 3.

Not sure what you mean! Coming from an E90 to the F30 was a huge step up, and a much bigger step than E46 to E90!

[....,,,,..,,..]

Originally Posted by ZeroFx

I really dont rate the current 335d or 3 series in general. They got the looks good but everything else just isnt. Road noise, ride comfort, sticky up satnav screen. Hard seat bases. Steering wheel is shite, annoying button layout.

I think next gen 5 and 7 based models are going to be such a massive improvement on current cars. Im not sure BMW will do enough to the next 3 though, they just keep cutting corners on the 3.

Don't follow that at all.

The F3x range of cars are a huge step up in range of tech and general kit from the E9x cars.

Yes you are always going to have huge improvements and Gucci tech in the likes of a 7 series.

Why on earth people compare a 6 or 7 series against a 3 is beyond me, the design budget, the pre production BOM budget and final production BOM costs will dwarf what is allocated against a 3 series.

The 5 is the same, it is a level above the F3x, if the design team ever walked in to BMW main office and said the next 3 was as luxurious and comfortable as a 5 series, they would be fired.

This is why the cars above the F3x range have things like comfort seats, night vision cameras and higher quality interiors.

Both the 1 and 3 series sit in the most challenging sectors, the 1 series has an entire raft of cars to compete against including BMWs own mini.

The 3 has the Fleet sector and needs to be priced low enough to entice people in.

The 330d Sdrive and the 340i are probably some of the best all round cars it's produced.

As for the twin turbo 3.0 diesel, what's not to like about that much power coupled with a superb gearbox? A diesel doing sub 5.0 seconds ...

Just look at the lads off here's track times, fucking impressive btw.