M performance brakes making noise ?

Logicoeur · 08-08-2020, 11:22 PM

You say you read the thread but still ask for help? There is no solution to the noise but to use plain face rotors. All dimpled or slotted rotors will suffer from this noise.

JNMNL52 · 11-15-2020, 08:44 AM

I am planning a brake job in the spring/summer 2021 on my 2017 440ix and was seriously considering the M Performance Brake Retrofit w/ red calipers until I read these posts about noise. I have the M Sports package (P337A) on my car with the gray colored calipers. My F32 is my daily driver and I do not track. When I replace my brakes I would like to upgrade the calipers to the blue or red M performance caliper. Based on this thread I am thinking of not going with cross-drilled or dimpled rotors but plain or slotted. If I forego the M Performance Brake Kit, what components would you recommend I consider in its place?

smak168 · 11-15-2020, 11:05 PM

I am also planning on upgrading to M Performance Brake retrofit w/ red calipers...this thread has added another perspective.

Thought I would share this BMW link about the M Performance Brakes I found.

...they maybe noisy and annoying...but I admit...they look so sweet compared to the base brakes with the 1 piston rear caliper...which I have.

JNMNL52 · 11-16-2020, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by smak168

I am also planning on upgrading to M Performance Brake retrofit w/ red calipers...this thread has added another perspective.

Thought I would share this BMW link about the M Performance Brakes I found.

...they maybe noisy and annoying...but I admit...they look so sweet compared to the base brakes with the 1 piston rear caliper...which I have.

Good video; nice to be aware before retrofitting. Thanks for sharing.

Crz13 · 04-08-2021, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Oscar Castillo

Same here. Had mine installed about a week ago.

I replaced the pads + discs on M135i 2 weeks ago and this noise has been driving me crazy!!

I’ve had the wheels off to inspect brakes about 3 times since including applying more grease and replacing brake clips/pins

It’s difficult to even explain the type of noise it is!
I was telling my mechanic its like a chittering/chattering sound lol!

When I apply the brakes from 65kmph it chitters and if I apply at higher speeds its chitters a lot!

Glad I found this thread and specifically your video as I was going insane!

tanzanight_f82 · 09-07-2021, 04:54 PM

I had the same issue with the slotted dimpled rotors, here's a video to demonstrate the noise. I thought I did something wrong but glad I found this forum.

It's noticeable by just turning the wheels, but it gets louder in higher speed.

https://1drv.ms/v/s!Al7GTuxpQBgg6WHf...bgBzW?e=E2iFUI

mpdeboer08 · 09-14-2021, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by In4mation

Anyone have experience with the M performance brakes making a constant fluttering/ticking noise while driving ?

The car is a 2013 335i msport with upgraded M performance brakes and there's a faint fluttering/ticking noise that comes from the drivers front wheel well. The noise can only be heard with the windows down and starts around 25 mph and is really loud when driven next to large road dividers and walls.

I tried to search for similar problems or solutions to no avail. Any help or suggestions would be gladly appreciated.

Mine don't make any sound. However on Porsches it is said to be not a problem.

shiftdnb · 09-17-2021, 10:48 PM

Can confirm I got the M Performance brake it with the dimpled rotors and it sounds like crickets in heat.

cseppelcs · 02-22-2022, 07:28 AM

Hi All

I had the same problem. BMW F30 LCI. Large blue brake system (370mm front brake disc, 345mm rear brake disc). It has a factory brake disc. I tried several brake pads. Factory, TRW, ATE Ceramic, Quaro Ceramic brake pads. Unfortunately, none of them provided a solution. A car mechanic has successfully used the EBC Yellowstuff insert on several cars (BMW M8, BMW X6M). I also bought one for the front brake and so far I have used over 1200km without any problems.

smak168 · 02-24-2022, 12:37 AM

Hey cseppelcs ,

Are you saying EBC Yellowstuff pads? You mentioned insert...

Thanks

nosam1g · 07-24-2022, 09:58 PM

just got m perf on my 340i .. and i here like a ticking and squealing when windows down .. didnt have that on the plain rotors / setup

shiftdnb · 07-24-2022, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by nosam1g

just got m perf on my 340i .. and i here like a ticking and squealing when windows down .. did have that on the plain rotors / setup

Welcome to the world of dimpled rotors.

nosam1g · 07-24-2022, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by shiftdnb

Welcome to the world of dimpled rotors.

Should i just drill out the dimples to make it drilled would it go away

toxik · 07-25-2022, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by shiftdnb

Welcome to the world of dimpled rotors.

ticking and squealing are not due to dimples.

dimpled rotors make this swooshing cricket like sound by the air being trapped between the pad and rotor.

squealing, that sounds more like they didn't apply copper grease to the back of the pads, and the ticking could be something touching like caliper or dust-shield.

nosam1g · 07-25-2022, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by toxik

ticking and squealing are not due to dimples.

dimpled rotors make this swooshing cricket like sound by the air being trapped between the pad and rotor.

squealing, that sounds more like they didn't apply copper grease to the back of the pads, and the ticking could be something touching like caliper or dust-shield.

Lmao it def sounds like a cricket just hard to describe it ill record a vid of it

toxik · 07-25-2022, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by nosam1g

Lmao it def sounds like a cricket just hard to describe it ill record a vid of it

if its cricket, then yes it is the dimples. i wouldn't recommend drilling them out though, i would just re-sell them and buy blank rotors. i've had all kinds of rotors in the past; drilled and slotted, just slotted, j-hook, and now the dimpled MP rotors. In my experience they all make some noise, some more than others. Blanks are your best best in not making noise.

johnung · 07-25-2022, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by nosam1g

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiftdnb

Welcome to the world of dimpled rotors.

Should i just drill out the dimples to make it drilled would it go away

NO! Do NOT attempt to drill out dimples. They weren't meant to drill out so the structural rotor vanes could be beneath them.

cseppelcs · 01-31-2023, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by smak168

Hey cseppelcs ,

Are you saying EBC Yellowstuff pads? You mentioned insert...

Thanks

yes, EBC Yellowstuff. it was almost perfect. the sound of the brake is much less.

lixiang7349 · 06-04-2023, 10:06 PM

I have the exact same issue. See pix.

lixiang7349 · 06-04-2023, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by cseppelcs

Hi All

I had the same problem. BMW F30 LCI. Large blue brake system (370mm front brake disc, 345mm rear brake disc). It has a factory brake disc. I tried several brake pads. Factory, TRW, ATE Ceramic, Quaro Ceramic brake pads. Unfortunately, none of them provided a solution. A car mechanic has successfully used the EBC Yellowstuff insert on several cars (BMW M8, BMW X6M). I also bought one for the front brake and so far I have used over 1200km without any problems.

https://ebcbrakes.com/products/ebc-y...t-street-pads/

Installing the above linked Brake Pads solved your noise issue?

B58 parts · 06-07-2023, 11:54 PM

I have the noise with the ebc red stuff pads, the dimpled slitted rotors of course. The ebc yellows I believe are the same pad design just a different compound so probably would still make the noise I would think. ?

I think it's air clipping in the rotors. I look forward to trying blank rotors as soon as these ones are cooked.

The smart thing to do is just buy the calipers used do not buy the entire kit as the pads suck and the rotors make the noise

Also when the inspection shop had to pull the wheels and of course impacted them on I think it was a bit louder. Retorqued to 104lbft and it's a light clipping.

lixiang7349 · 06-08-2023, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by YuminNuman

I have the noise with the ebc red stuff pads, the dimpled slitted rotors of course. The ebc yellows I believe are the same pad design just a different compound so probably would still make the noise I would think. ?

I think it's air clipping in the rotors. I look forward to trying blank rotors as soon as these ones are cooked.

The smart thing to do is just buy the calipers used do not buy the entire kit as the pads suck and the rotors make the noise

Also when the inspection shop had to pull the wheels and of course impacted them on I think it was a bit louder. Retorqued to 104lbft and it's a light clipping.

this is the worst 4k i've spent in my entire life.

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JNMNL52 Private 35 Rep 68 Posts Drives: 2017 440ix 2018 X5 35i Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Maryland iTrader: (0)	I am planning a brake job in the spring/summer 2021 on my 2017 440ix and was seriously considering the M Performance Brake Retrofit w/ red calipers until I read these posts about noise. I have the M Sports package (P337A) on my car with the gray colored calipers. My F32 is my daily driver and I do not track. When I replace my brakes I would like to upgrade the calipers to the blue or red M performance caliper. Based on this thread I am thinking of not going with cross-drilled or dimpled rotors but plain or slotted. If I forego the M Performance Brake Kit, what components would you recommend I consider in its place? __________________ 2017 440ix w/ M Sport/Aero packages/ MPPSK/MPBBK/6MT 2018 X5 xDrive 35i w/ M Sport
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B58 parts Captain 473 Rep 796 Posts Drives: '17 340ix 6MT Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: US iTrader: (0)	I have the noise with the ebc red stuff pads, the dimpled slitted rotors of course. The ebc yellows I believe are the same pad design just a different compound so probably would still make the noise I would think. ? I think it's air clipping in the rotors. I look forward to trying blank rotors as soon as these ones are cooked. The smart thing to do is just buy the calipers used do not buy the entire kit as the pads suck and the rotors make the noise Also when the inspection shop had to pull the wheels and of course impacted them on I think it was a bit louder. Retorqued to 104lbft and it's a light clipping.
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