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View Poll Results: Fully Loaded F32 vs. E92 M3 with Competition and Performance Packages?
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      07-25-2013, 10:53 AM   #67
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Tell me this car isn't sporty and I will shut up.

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lol - looks great!!!
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      07-25-2013, 01:07 PM   #68
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LOL.... I went to buy the M3 and ended up with a Msport AH3. But I have no regrets, I love the car. But I do love the sound of the the V8. I will probably get the M4 when aval.
You'll have a little problem there as the M4 won't have a V8
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      07-25-2013, 01:13 PM   #69
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You'll have a little problem there as the M4 won't have a V8
Wow. This forum is just full of trolls. Of course it doesn't have a V8. 2013 M3 last year for 8.
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      07-25-2013, 03:28 PM   #70
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You'll have a little problem there as the M4 won't have a V8
Wow. This forum is just full of trolls. Of course it doesn't have a V8. 2013 M3 last year for 8.
I started this thread fully expecting trolling to be the theme... Surprised it's still going on...
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      07-25-2013, 08:28 PM   #71
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This is why we can't have nice things. People who buy new cars making poor choices for bad reasons. Decreasing demand makes it less likely we'll even have the stick option in the future. See: the horrible lack of diversity in color choices we get.

Do you have a reason for thinking the resale of the MT will be lower? If anything, I bet it'll be higher, particularly on an M3. I'm constantly amazed how frequently "resale" is trotted out as a reason for choosing boring options on the F30 forum.

I would have bought a used E9x M3 and saved $20 or $30k. That's a lot of money to me.
I've actually changed my mind since writing that, I would now prefer a CPO 6MT e92 m3 . It would be more rare than the DCT in a few years plus I could get a lower price since they seem to sit on dealer lots for longer. Only reason I'm concerned about resale value is because the M4 is the car I really want to own for 10 something years. If I decide to buy the 4 series I won't be considering resale value, 6MT + No premium package will make it hard to find a buyer but wtv I'll keep that car for at least 5 years
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I started this thread fully expecting trolling to be the theme... Surprised it's still going on...
lol don't forget to put up more pics of your M3 when you get a chance the color is dope
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I've actually changed my mind since writing that, I would now prefer a CPO 6MT e92 m3 . It would be more rare than the DCT in a few years plus I could get a lower price since they seem to sit on dealer lots for longer. Only reason I'm concerned about resale value is because the M4 is the car I really want to own for 10 something years. If I decide to buy the 4 series I won't be considering resale value, 6MT + No premium package will make it hard to find a buyer but wtv I'll keep that car for at least 5 years
Get the e92 m3, but I think CA is one of those places where people are quick to jump on the "it won't sell if MT" bandwagon. But for a car like this, I personally think it will sell easier with a 6MT. Less to go wrong and much cheaper to repair. Especially if you sell it to someone who doesn't sit in 2 hr's of traffic on the 405 every day.
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lol don't forget to put up more pics of your M3 when you get a chance the color is dope
+1

(does OP even have car yet or still drooling over pictures while he "wait's )
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(does OP even have car yet or still drooling over pictures while he "wait's )
OP has his car, thanks for the concern
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(does OP even have car yet or still drooling over pictures while he "wait's )
OP has his car, thanks for the concern
Beauty!
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OP has his car, thanks for the concern
Incredible, that looks just Concavity of the wheels is fantastic!

How hard is an angel eye retrofit? (kinda like complaining that a supermodel has dandruff problems)
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Incredible, that looks just Concavity of the wheels is fantastic!

How hard is an angel eye retrofit? (kinda like complaining that a supermodel has dandruff problems)
Thanks!!! lol - Angel eyes are very high on my to-do list (I don't know any M3 owner who's happy with them), and it's pretty simple... Just trying to decide which option I like best. I don't like blue light, so trying to find the right frequency...
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Fully loaded F32 M Sport for ~$66K or E92 M3 With Competition and Premium Packages for ~$68K?

Would lease vs. buy make a difference?

Disclaimer: I opted for the F32 (not easy)...

EDIT: As you can see, I changed my mind and picked up a frozen blue E92...
Frozen blue===>sexy choice.
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I've actually changed my mind since writing that, I would now prefer a CPO 6MT e92 m3 . It would be more rare than the DCT in a few years plus I could get a lower price since they seem to sit on dealer lots for longer. Only reason I'm concerned about resale value is because the M4 is the car I really want to own for 10 something years. If I decide to buy the 4 series I won't be considering resale value, 6MT + No premium package will make it hard to find a buyer but wtv I'll keep that car for at least 5 years
Good choice

The reality is, a manual transmission on an M3 is very very desirable. Don't think about what % of people will want a used DCT M3 versus a used MT M3; think about how the demand changes from new to used. It seems like in the new car market, lots of fancy doo-dads sell, but on the used market people like the tried and true.

So if 60% of new M3s sell with DCT and 40% with M/T (and I'd be surprised; I bet they sell more M/T than DCT), but on the *used* market, the demand is 50/50, the M/T demand is actually higher relative to the number of cars out there.

All ya gotta do is look at how many BMWs sell in silver new, and how many people are clamoring for non-boring-silver colors on the used market. (I should know, I have a silver BMW because I couldn't find the car I wanted in Estoril!)

Also, my local shop specializes in yanking broken SMG transmissions from E46 M3s and replacing them with 6MTs. I'm not saying BMW didn't learn anything with the DCT, but I think it's a pretty expensive risk to take when you're talking resale.

It might be hard to sell a M/T 760Li (if you could find/build/make one), but on an enthusiast car, there will be a large M/T demand for years to come.

And mostly, it's about finding the right buyer for the car, not about 'lower resale value'. Sure, Carmax might not give you much money for a 6MT 535xiT because their sales drones don't know how to sell one and it'll sit on the lot forever, but hop on the forums and people will beat a path to your door to offer you above asking price for it.

I sold my Daytona Violet E36 M3 and it took about 3 months to find a buyer. But the sale value wasn't lower, it just took the right buyer.
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