Installing Radiator Guards on B58 equipped vehicles (US)

Nebelhinten · 09-12-2018, 07:49 PM

They finally got mounting module part for radiator in yesterday. Dealer installed new radiator and guards today and AC back to normal. Took about 1 month for whole process. SA said first car he has seen with the guards.

cfm56d7b · 09-21-2018, 09:40 PM

Sharing an update.

The dealer tried to install the radiator guards but apparently the parts sent from Germany are for a vehicle _without_ an oil cooler.

My vehicle had an oil cooler and requires a different part. Worth noting. Quite a bit of email traffic is in progress between the dealer and BMW engineers.

Sometime on Tuesday, I will post an update.

cfm56d7b · 09-27-2018, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cfm56d7b

I opened a case with BMW NA requesting the installation of rock guards as a courtesy under warranty. My local dealer already received a list of parts confirmed by BMW AG (Germany).

Will update this thread once BMW NA responds.

Update.

My local BMW dealer indicated that the radiator guard shipped from Germany were for a vehicle _without_ an oil cooler.

My 2017 BMW 440 GC has an oil cooler so the dealer could not complete the work.

The dealer is now discussing the issue with BMW AG to determine the right part numbers.

If anyone successfully had radiator guard installed _with_ an oil cooler? Please post the repair invoice and part numbers.

The process continues.

NormanConquest · 09-28-2018, 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cfm56d7b

Update.

My local BMW dealer indicated that the radiator guard shipped from Germany were for a vehicle _without_ an oil cooler.

My 2017 BMW 440 GC has an oil cooler so the dealer could not complete the work.

The dealer is now discussing the issue with BMW AG to determine the right part numbers.

If anyone successfully had radiator guard installed _with_ an oil cooler? Please post the repair invoice and part numbers.

The process continues.

I'm perplex why would some b58 have an oil cooler and other don't

Nebelhinten · 09-28-2018, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by NormanConquest

I'm perplex why would some b58 have an oil cooler and other don't

340i has an oil cooler, looks same as 440i.

Realoem diagram.

supermarket · 09-28-2018, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by NormanConquest

I'm perplex why would some b58 have an oil cooler and other don't

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nebelhinten

340i has an oil cooler, looks same as 440i.

Realoem diagram.

That’s the transmission oil cooler, for the automatic transmission only. That’s why some have it and others don’t.

NormanConquest · 09-28-2018, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by supermarket

That’s the transmission oil cooler, for the automatic transmission only. That’s why some have it and others don’t.

But my car is an automatic and they installed the same part as everyone else....

Nebelhinten · 09-28-2018, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cfm56d7b

Update.

My local BMW dealer indicated that the radiator guard shipped from Germany were for a vehicle _without_ an oil cooler.

My 2017 BMW 440 GC has an oil cooler so the dealer could not complete the work.

The dealer is now discussing the issue with BMW AG to determine the right part numbers.

If anyone successfully had radiator guard installed _with_ an oil cooler? Please post the repair invoice and part numbers.

The process continues.

I have them installed and like you have an oil cooler. The rock guard is same part number 042 as mine. Maybe they got the wrong mounts?

https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...diagId=17_0977

Blubaron79 · 09-28-2018, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NormanConquest

Quote:

Originally Posted by cfm56d7b

Update.

My local BMW dealer indicated that the radiator guard shipped from Germany were for a vehicle _without_ an oil cooler.

My 2017 BMW 440 GC has an oil cooler so the dealer could not complete the work.

The dealer is now discussing the issue with BMW AG to determine the right part numbers.

If anyone successfully had radiator guard installed _with_ an oil cooler? Please post the repair invoice and part numbers.

The process continues.

I'm perplex why would some b58 have an oil cooler and other don't

If you get the Track Package, you get the extra radiator and no fog lights.

If you have fog lights you do not have the aux oil cooler.

NormanConquest · 09-28-2018, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Blubaron79

If you get the Track Package, you get the extra radiator and no fog lights.

If you have fog lights you do not have the aux oil cooler.

Ah that explains a ton.

cfm56d7b · 09-28-2018, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nebelhinten

Quote:

Originally Posted by cfm56d7b

Update.

My local BMW dealer indicated that the radiator guard shipped from Germany were for a vehicle _without_ an oil cooler.

My 2017 BMW 440 GC has an oil cooler so the dealer could not complete the work.

The dealer is now discussing the issue with BMW AG to determine the right part numbers.

If anyone successfully had radiator guard installed _with_ an oil cooler? Please post the repair invoice and part numbers.

The process continues.

I have them installed and like you have an oil cooler. The rock guard is same part number 042 as mine. Maybe they got the wrong mounts?

https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...diagId=17_0977

Would you be able to post the repair order with all the details? Many thanks.

insanecoder · 09-28-2018, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Blubaron79

If you get the Track Package, you get the extra radiator and no fog lights.

If you have fog lights you do not have the aux oil cooler.

what xtra radiator?
part#?

Blubaron79 · 09-28-2018, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by insanecoder

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blubaron79

If you get the Track Package, you get the extra radiator and no fog lights.

If you have fog lights you do not have the aux oil cooler.

what xtra radiator?
part#?

Extra radiator ie: oil cooler. It's on the passenger side where the fog light would have went.

Nebelhinten · 09-28-2018, 08:25 PM

Trans Cooler (aka oil cooler, auxiliary radiator)
https://www.getbmwparts.com/oem-part...er-17118625431

My passenger side lower grill

cfm56d7b · 10-03-2018, 07:14 PM

To all forum members who have successfully retrofitted radiator guards at their local dealer:

I could use your help. There is a dialog in progress with my local dealer in SoCal about retrofitting radiator guards. The dealer is unable to perform the installation because my vehicle (details below) has a transmission oil cooler preventing installation of rock guard. The dealer opened a PUMA case with BMW.

My vehicle: 2017 BMW 440i Gran Coupe, built in July 2016, M Sport package, M Sport brakes, Track Handling Package.

I already know that the original radiator - P/N 17-11-8-482-625 - has been discontinued. The radiator listed as compatible with rock guards is PN 17-11-8-741-830. It's very likely that the radiator may have to be replaced as well but it's unrelated to the question of why transmission oil cooler precludes installation of rock guards.

If the rock guards have been successfully retrofitted on your vehicle with B58 engine, can you provide details about your vehicle?

- Year, model, build date
- M Sport or not
- M Sport brakes or not
- Track Handling Package or not

NormanConquest · 10-04-2018, 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cfm56d7b

To all forum members who have successfully retrofitted radiator guards at their local dealer:

I could use your help. There is a dialog in progress with my local dealer in SoCal about retrofitting radiator guards. The dealer is unable to perform the installation because my vehicle (details below) has a transmission oil cooler preventing installation of rock guard. The dealer opened a PUMA case with BMW.

My vehicle: 2017 BMW 440i Gran Coupe, built in July 2016, M Sport package, M Sport brakes, Track Handling Package.

I already know that the original radiator - P/N 17-11-8-482-625 - has been discontinued. The radiator listed as compatible with rock guards is PN 17-11-8-741-830. It's very likely that the radiator may have to be replaced as well but it's unrelated to the question of why transmission oil cooler precludes installation of rock guards.

If the rock guards have been successfully retrofitted on your vehicle with B58 engine, can you provide details about your vehicle?

- Year, model, build date
- M Sport or not
- M Sport brakes or not
- Track Handling Package or not

2016 340i SA made in Aug 2015
M sport yes
M sport brakes yes
Track no
Had mppk original later upgraded to mppsk and m limited dif

If I'm not mistaken the bottom guard is seperate couldn't they just place a guard on the top radiator and not place one in the bottom

cfm56d7b · 10-04-2018, 10:14 AM

NormanConquest Many thanks for sharing.

bimmer456 · 10-04-2018, 10:33 AM

Don't see how these rock guards would protect against anything except very large boulders. A very large rock could hit the guard and still ricochet into the rad. Probably best to avoid areas with large flying rocks or taking your car off roading.

NormanConquest · 10-04-2018, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by bimmer456

Don't see how these rock guards would protect against anything except very large boulders. A very large rock could hit the guard and still ricochet into the rad. Probably best to avoid areas with large flying rocks or taking your car off roading.

If you driven in NJ or NYC every street has the potential of a boulder made out of ash fault or concrete flying at your car.

cfm56d7b · 10-15-2018, 02:34 PM

Update.

BMW finally provided a new part number - 17-11-9-487-034 - for the right side mount that should allow mounting the transmission oil cooler together with radiator guards.

This part has been ordered but ... neither BMW US or BMW Canada have this part, no stock in Germany, no ETA either.

NormanConquest · 10-15-2018, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cfm56d7b

Update.

BMW finally provided a new part number - 17-11-9-487-034 - for the right side mount that should allow mounting the transmission oil cooler together with radiator guards.

This part has been ordered but ... neither BMW US or BMW Canada have this part, no stock in Germany, no ETA either.

Glad to hear, hopefully they get you that part before the end of October.

cfm56d7b · 10-15-2018, 05:26 PM

NormanConquest Thanks! I plan to make periodic inquiries with my local dealer. Apparently, 13 parts just like the one my vehicle needs have been ordered already.

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Nebelhinten Private First Class 54 Rep 148 Posts Drives: 2018 Tanzanite 340i MPPSK Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: San Diego, CA iTrader: (0)	Update They finally got mounting module part for radiator in yesterday. Dealer installed new radiator and guards today and AC back to normal. Took about 1 month for whole process. SA said first car he has seen with the guards.
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cfm56d7b Lieutenant General 5886 Rep 10,256 Posts Drives: 2017 440i Gran Coupe & 2015 X5 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Orange County, CA iTrader: (2)	Sharing an update. The dealer tried to install the radiator guards but apparently the parts sent from Germany are for a vehicle _without_ an oil cooler. My vehicle had an oil cooler and requires a different part. Worth noting. Quite a bit of email traffic is in progress between the dealer and BMW engineers. Sometime on Tuesday, I will post an update.
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09-28-2018, 08:25 PM	#58
Nebelhinten Private First Class 54 Rep 148 Posts Drives: 2018 Tanzanite 340i MPPSK Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: San Diego, CA iTrader: (0)	Trans Cooler (aka oil cooler, auxiliary radiator) https://www.getbmwparts.com/oem-part...er-17118625431 My passenger side lower grill
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10-03-2018, 07:14 PM	#59
cfm56d7b Lieutenant General 5886 Rep 10,256 Posts Drives: 2017 440i Gran Coupe & 2015 X5 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Orange County, CA iTrader: (2)	To all forum members who have successfully retrofitted radiator guards at their local dealer: I could use your help. There is a dialog in progress with my local dealer in SoCal about retrofitting radiator guards. The dealer is unable to perform the installation because my vehicle (details below) has a transmission oil cooler preventing installation of rock guard. The dealer opened a PUMA case with BMW. My vehicle: 2017 BMW 440i Gran Coupe, built in July 2016, M Sport package, M Sport brakes, Track Handling Package. I already know that the original radiator - P/N 17-11-8-482-625 - has been discontinued. The radiator listed as compatible with rock guards is PN 17-11-8-741-830. It's very likely that the radiator may have to be replaced as well but it's unrelated to the question of why transmission oil cooler precludes installation of rock guards. If the rock guards have been successfully retrofitted on your vehicle with B58 engine, can you provide details about your vehicle? - Year, model, build date - M Sport or not - M Sport brakes or not - Track Handling Package or not
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cfm56d7b Lieutenant General 5886 Rep 10,256 Posts Drives: 2017 440i Gran Coupe & 2015 X5 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Orange County, CA iTrader: (2)	NormanConquest Many thanks for sharing.
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10-04-2018, 10:33 AM	#62
bimmer456 Major General 2960 Rep 5,993 Posts Drives: 340i Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Pasadena, CA iTrader: (0)	Don't see how these rock guards would protect against anything except very large boulders. A very large rock could hit the guard and still ricochet into the rad. Probably best to avoid areas with large flying rocks or taking your car off roading.
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cfm56d7b Lieutenant General 5886 Rep 10,256 Posts Drives: 2017 440i Gran Coupe & 2015 X5 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Orange County, CA iTrader: (2)	Update. BMW finally provided a new part number - 17-11-9-487-034 - for the right side mount that should allow mounting the transmission oil cooler together with radiator guards. This part has been ordered but ... neither BMW US or BMW Canada have this part, no stock in Germany, no ETA either.
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cfm56d7b Lieutenant General 5886 Rep 10,256 Posts Drives: 2017 440i Gran Coupe & 2015 X5 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Orange County, CA iTrader: (2)	NormanConquest Thanks! I plan to make periodic inquiries with my local dealer. Apparently, 13 parts just like the one my vehicle needs have been ordered already.
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