[Bibbles]

Originally Posted by Imran@Evolve

Results from our B58 ECU Tune for the M140i/M240i/340i/440i.

This is a stock car with just our Stage 1 ECU tune on Shell V Power 99 Ron fuel.

BMW FXX M140i Stage 1 by Evolve Automotive

I'm assuming that'll also work for the 540i?

[Imran@Evolve]

Originally Posted by Bibbles

I'm assuming that'll also work for the 540i?

Yes indeed

[Bibbles]

Originally Posted by Imran@Evolve

Yes indeed

Bugger, that's a bit tempting.

[DexGC]

Originally Posted by Imran@Evolve

We have a new permanent offer for forum members at £449 inc VAT with pre and post dyno's.

Are you still working on the Evolve-R or is that not going to happen now?

[Imran@Evolve]

Originally Posted by DexGC

Are you still working on the Evolve-R or is that not going to happen now?

Still in the works for the F series diesels. My developer was ill for a while so it got delayed.

[Imran@Evolve]

Results from our B48 320i/420i/520i ECU Remap. This is applied via the OBD port. We have had lots of experience on this engine with our development on the F56 Cooper S platform (we have owned one for 2 years) but ECU flashing was not possible on the B48 in the 3/4 series until recently.

We can flash this tune remotely too.

evolve_bmw_f3x_b48_320i_remap_dyno_graph by Evolve Automotive, on Flickr

[mikeoz]

That seems like quite a jump for a 2.0?

[Imran@Evolve]

Originally Posted by mikeoz

That seems like quite a jump for a 2.0?

It is in a detuned state from the factory especially in 20i guise. Same as the N20 20i was.

[Russbmw]

So what's the deal with the x40i engine remap there then? They don't make 372bhp as standard to they? I thought they left the factory with about 330bhp ish?

Only asking because i'm considering having my 640i (2014) done.

[Imran@Evolve]

Originally Posted by Russbmw

So what's the deal with the x40i engine remap there then? They don't make 372bhp as standard to they? I thought they left the factory with about 330bhp ish?

Only asking because i'm considering having my 640i (2014) done.

They are making more power than BMW quote them at.

[Russbmw]

Originally Posted by Imran@Evolve

They are making more power than BMW quote them at.

40bhp+ more than stated? That is a bit unlikely surely?

[Watsey]

Originally Posted by Russbmw

40bhp+ more than stated? That is a bit unlikely surely?

BMW published figures tend to be quite conservative.

My 330D has a published output of 258bhp but made 274 on the dyno before i initially had the MPPK added.

[Imran@Evolve]

Originally Posted by Russbmw

40bhp+ more than stated? That is a bit unlikely surely?

Yes and no its not unlikely. Its absolutely accurate.

F10 M5 - BMW quoted 560 BHP - actually make 600-650 BHP.
BMW F80 M3 - BMW quoted 425 BHP - actually make 430-455 BHP.
MINI Cooper S F56 - BMW quoted 190 BHP - actually make 200-220 BHP.

List goes on but you get the idea.

[DexGC]

Is there any more news on the Evolve-R for F3x diesels?

[Hooded]

Originally Posted by Russbmw

40bhp+ more than stated? That is a bit unlikely surely?

Agree, I'm always a bit skeptical about cars making a lot more than manufacturer quoted figures on some dynos. For me, Dyno runs are more useful just for seeing how much you actually gain from the remap with before and after the remap runs.

[Iyrix]

My 335i - 306bhp made 318bhp, not much... but a nice figure for a starting point.

[Imran@Evolve]

Originally Posted by DexGC

Is there any more news on the Evolve-R for F3x diesels?

Yes its finally ready but in a different form. You can use the software which we send you via a link and an E-NET/OBD cable that you would use for coding etc so the flash time is faster.

Will put up more details later today.

[Russbmw]

Originally Posted by Imran@Evolve

Yes and no its not unlikely. Its absolutely accurate.

F10 M5 - BMW quoted 560 BHP - actually make 600-650 BHP.
BMW F80 M3 - BMW quoted 425 BHP - actually make 430-455 BHP.
MINI Cooper S F56 - BMW quoted 190 BHP - actually make 200-220 BHP.

List goes on but you get the idea.

Having been debating a remap for mine recently, I contacted my insurer - and they're fine with it as long as it's up to a certain limit.

Got to wonder how this all work if BMW are understating the power in the first place, as remapping would then seriously put it over the insurance power limit; whereas if it was making what BMW said it was in the first place, you'd be fine.

[bishbosh]

Originally Posted by Russbmw

Having been debating a remap for mine recently, I contacted my insurer - and they're fine with it as long as it's up to a certain limit.

Got to wonder how this all work if BMW are understating the power in the first place, as remapping would then seriously put it over the insurance power limit; whereas if it was making what BMW said it was in the first place, you'd be fine.

I assume they go on 'official' values, how else could they insure? There are too many variances; cold weather, better fuel, etc that can all affect the power an engine makes.

I phoned my insurer and all they asked me was what the stock and the modified bhp was - presumably to get a % increase. They didn't demand a dyno to see if my car made more power than it should.

[Imran@Evolve]

Originally Posted by Russbmw

Having been debating a remap for mine recently, I contacted my insurer - and they're fine with it as long as it's up to a certain limit.

Got to wonder how this all work if BMW are understating the power in the first place, as remapping would then seriously put it over the insurance power limit; whereas if it was making what BMW said it was in the first place, you'd be fine.

We can create a map which has less power to keep you within the % increase which they allow.

If they said 20% you'd have a dyno showing what before and after was - as long as it was within that you wouldn't have an issue.

[Russbmw]

Originally Posted by Imran@Evolve

We can create a map which has less power to keep you within the % increase which they allow.

If they said 20% you'd have a dyno showing what before and after was - as long as it was within that you wouldn't have an issue.

That is very true, and for anywhere with a rolling road I guess. However, there are plenty of places that offer OTS maps, and so you'd really have no idea if your car was already putting out above the stated figures - so , hypothetically, if with the OTS map the car puts out more than the insurance allowance, as a result of having a higher stock output anyway, but you have no before and after dyno...........

See where I'm going with this?

Whilst I've got your attention though Imran, one of my questions on getting a remap or not is because there's a strong possibility I'll be emigrating to Australia in a few years, and I'l likely take my car with me. Presumably, any performance remap here in the UK is tweaked to provide optimum, safe performance increases based on the average UK climate?

or is that utter tosh, and it wouldn't matter if I had the car mapped, then took it off to somewhere where the ambient temperature rarely drops below 18 degrees in winter, 40 degrees in summer?!

[Imran@Evolve]

Originally Posted by Russbmw

That is very true, and for anywhere with a rolling road I guess. However, there are plenty of places that offer OTS maps, and so you'd really have no idea if your car was already putting out above the stated figures - so , hypothetically, if with the OTS map the car puts out more than the insurance allowance, as a result of having a higher stock output anyway, but you have no before and after dyno...........

See where I'm going with this?

Whilst I've got your attention though Imran, one of my questions on getting a remap or not is because there's a strong possibility I'll be emigrating to Australia in a few years, and I'l likely take my car with me. Presumably, any performance remap here in the UK is tweaked to provide optimum, safe performance increases based on the average UK climate?

or is that utter tosh, and it wouldn't matter if I had the car mapped, then took it off to somewhere where the ambient temperature rarely drops below 18 degrees in winter, 40 degrees in summer?!

We tune many cars in Australia too. Its more fuel octane related than climate but they have similarly good fuel over there so tune is the same between the two countries. With the temperature the car may see a higher IAT and adjust boost/ignition/fuel itself to keep within safe limits.