[IMS-340C]

Stock Supra keeping up with decatted Boot Mod3 Stage 2 aggressive mode 440i!!

How is that possible anybody seen that video of Vehicle Virgins ?

Jump to 6 minutes in the video for the runs.

[SRHosein]

Power to weight ratio (about 300lbs difference). Plus fuel system and other components are upgraded on supra.

[IMS-340C]

Stock Supra traps 108-110 mph in the 1/4 mile, my 340i MPPSK traps the same on 88 octane.

Decatted Boot Mod3 Stage 2 440i should trap close to 120 mph.

It shouldn't even be close.

Originally Posted by SRHosein

Power to weight ratio (about 300lbs difference). Plus fuel system and other components are upgraded on supra.

[TreDirtyFive]

Originally Posted by IMS-340MP

Stock Supra traps 108-110 mph in the 1/4 mile, my 340i MPPSK traps the same on 88 octane.

Decatted Boot Mod3 Stage 2 440i should trap close to 120 mph.

It shouldn't even be close.

Isn’t the minimum octane on all Bxx applications 91 octane/95 ron?

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Originally Posted by IMS-340MP

Stock Supra traps 108-110 mph in the 1/4 mile, my 340i MPPSK traps the same on 88 octane.

Decatted Boot Mod3 Stage 2 440i should trap close to 120 mph.

It shouldn't even be close.

errr that's a bit high for a stage 2 440i

They trap around 110-112mph on 91, 112-114mph on 93, and 115-117mph on E30.

a stock supra traps about 112-113mph in the 1/4 mile, so I can see why it kept up with the 440i, it's also lighter than the 440i.

[B58togo]

Originally Posted by IMS-340MP

Stock Supra traps 108-110 mph in the 1/4 mile, my 340i MPPSK traps the same on 88 octane.

Decatted Boot Mod3 Stage 2 440i should trap close to 120 mph.

It shouldn't even be close.

I trapped 118-119 on E30 Stage 2 in average conditions. I’d guess the slightly heavier 440 on 93 would be a couple mph slower.

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Originally Posted by B58togo

I trapped 118-119 on E30 Stage 2 in average conditions. I’d guess the slightly heavier 440 on 93 would be a couple mph slower.

M240i does not have the same DME and such as a normal 340/440i does, they make more power from the factory stock, and tuned they make more power which is why they always have been able to run much faster times that the 340/440i.

It's was the same thing with the M235i and 335i/435i.

If the guy in the video had a M240i instead of the 440i, he would have probably put a good 2 cars lengths or more.

[B58togo]

Originally Posted by chaungo

M240i does not have the same DME and such as a normal 340/440i does, they make more power from the factory stock, and tuned they make more power which is why they always have been able to run much faster times that the 340/440i.

It's was the same thing with the M235i and 335i/435i.

If the guy in the video had a M240i instead of the 440i, he would have probably put a good 2 cars lengths or more.

They might make an advertised 15 hp and 39 ft lbs more in stock form due to slightly higher boost tweaks from the factory, but they're identical engines and they share the same tunes across the platform. A tuned M240i makes no more power than a tuned 340/440. The only advantage the 2 Series has is a negligible weight advantage.

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Originally Posted by B58togo

They might make an advertised 15 hp and 39 ft lbs more in stock form due to slightly higher boost tweaks from the factory, but they're identical engines and they share the same tunes across the platform. A tuned M240i makes no more power than a tuned 340/440. The only advantage the 2 Series has is a negligible weight advantage.

Not true really, it takes a bit more to get the 340/440i into 11s, and m240i gets there with no effort at all.

[kriszty]

Originally Posted by chaungo

Not true really, it takes a bit more to get the 340/440i into 11s, and m240i gets there with no effort at all.

true

[IMS-340C]

Here's a stock Supra trapping 108 mph vs a tuned Supra.

Also the weight difference is only 150 lbs vs 440i.

Originally Posted by chaungo

errr that's a bit high for a stage 2 440i

They trap around 110-112mph on 91, 112-114mph on 93, and 115-117mph on E30.

a stock supra traps about 112-113mph in the 1/4 mile, so I can see why it kept up with the 440i, it's also lighter than the 440i.

[enemigo13]

i trap 186.5km/h (116mph) with 340xi tune only (stock DP). fuel is 98 (93 us)

Originally Posted by chaungo

errr that's a bit high for a stage 2 440i

They trap around 110-112mph on 91, 112-114mph on 93, and 115-117mph on E30.

a stock supra traps about 112-113mph in the 1/4 mile, so I can see why it kept up with the 440i, it's also lighter than the 440i.

[B58togo]

Originally Posted by chaungo

Not true really, it takes a bit more to get the 340/440i into 11s, and m240i gets there with no effort at all.

That's what you're basing it on? Not particularly scientific. The 240 gets into the 11's with no effort at all? Umm, ok. I could not get under 12.00 at one track the week before I broke into the 11's at a different track. On the other hand, there were 340i's running 12.00 back in 2017 with just an AA piggyback and catless DP.

Regardless, reach out to any of the tuners at PTF, MHD, Mission etc and they'll all tell you they share the same DME and end results are the same.

[IMS-340C]

That's a strong trap speed also considering it's xdrive.

Which tuner did you go for ?

Originally Posted by enemigo13

i trap 186.5km/h (116mph) with 340xi tune only (stock DP). fuel is 98 (93 us)

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Originally Posted by B58togo

That's what you're basing it on? Not particularly scientific. The 240 gets into the 11's with no effort at all? Umm, ok. I could not get under 12.00 at one track the week before I broke into the 11's at a different track. On the other hand, there were 340i's running 12.00 back in 2017 with just an AA piggyback and catless DP.

Regardless, reach out to any of the tuners at PTF, MHD, Mission etc and they'll all tell you they share the same DME and end results are the same.

I will legit bet money, that if you put a 340i and a M240i with the same tune and mods next to each other, the m240i will pull away easily.

I've seen it happen and I know the m240i is faster than the 4 door counterparts tuned, same mods and fuel.

I can't explain why, I'm going to assume the transmission has no tq limiter compared to the 340/440i or something but the m235i/m240i has always made more power and ran faster 1/4 mile times than their counterparts.

Its kind of like the M135i and m140i.

[enemigo13]

Originally Posted by IMS-340MP

That's a strong trap speed also considering it's xdrive.

Which tuner did you go for ?

tuned myself. no dyno, but probably ~420 crank hp

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Originally Posted by enemigo13

tuned myself. no dyno, but probably ~420 crank hp

Realistically you'd want the temps to be in the 20s and DA between 1000-2000 to simulate real drag strip conditions.

Colder temps and negative DA is basically cheating

[enemigo13]

Originally Posted by chaungo

Realistically you'd want the temps to be in the 20s and DA between 1000-2000 to simulate real drag strip conditions.

Colder temps and negative DA is basically cheating

I have another one with 18deg C, about DA : not every drag strip is high above sea level.

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Originally Posted by enemigo13

I have another one with 18deg C, about DA : not every drag strip is high above sea level.

Most of them are though, so I usually use it as a standard that if you can put down a good time at that high of a DA, then you can put that time down anywhere.

For example, the nearest drag strip is about 2 hours from me and has a DA of between 1300-1800.

Where I live, the DA is between 600-1600 depending on temperature and humidity, and about 0 to -1000 in the autumn/winter, I run about 0.2-0.3 seconds faster and trap 2mph higher in the negative DA then I do in the summer.

Of course I only have 91 octane available to me.

[enemigo13]

I see you’re running PS2 F30 xdrive, what’s your 100-200 time?

Originally Posted by chaungo

Most of them are though, so I usually use it as a standard that if you can put down a good time at that high of a DA, then you can put that time down anywhere.

For example, the nearest drag strip is about 2 hours from me and has a DA of between 1300-1800.

Where I live, the DA is between 600-1600 depending on temperature and humidity, and about 0 to -1000 in the autumn/winter, I run about 0.2-0.3 seconds faster and trap 2mph higher in the negative DA then I do in the summer.

Of course I only have 91 octane available to me.

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Originally Posted by enemigo13

I see you’re running PS2 F30 xdrive, what’s your 100-200 time?

10 seconds flat

[enemigo13]

Originally Posted by chaungo

10 seconds flat

slope, temperature, DA?