Advice please!

seenthelight! · 03-03-2021, 10:58 AM

Car is 2017 435d, X drive with adaptive suspension. Badly kerbed the car in snow last month, which resulted in 2 new drivers side alloys/tyres, front suspension parts and a new steering rack. Just picked the repaired car up, and noticed that the steering weight does not alter in sport mode, regardless of settings in idrive. Before, if you configure sport to chassis/drivetrain, then the steering would get heavier. Set it to drivetrain only, and the steering was lighter. Now, whichever you select, there is no difference to the steering, it's still light. You could feel the difference in the settings whilst stationery, by moving the steering wheel. I pointed this out to the garage, who tested it and insist that it's ok - no alarms, so no faults. Could this be due to a newer/updated steering rack, and be the norm ? Or a coding issue - does a new steering rack need coding? Any advice welcome guys.

mikeoz · 03-03-2021, 11:35 AM

Sounds more like a crash than "Kerbing" given that amount of work?
Either way what you say does not sound right...may be try another dealer get a 2nd opinion?

seenthelight! · 03-03-2021, 11:57 AM

Skidded into the high kerb at approximately 5mph, can't believe the damage myself!
Was an insurance approved repairer, not main dealer. Although they got all the parts from a local main dealer

robbiep · 03-03-2021, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by seenthelight!

Skidded into the high kerb at approximately 5mph, can't believe the damage myself!
Was an insurance approved repairer, not main dealer. Although they got all the parts from a local main dealer

I would question whether the new rack has been connected and set up properly - or if it's the correct rack, as you've got VSS

bishbosh · 03-03-2021, 12:56 PM

As above, I'd also suggest perhaps the steering rack hasn't been programmed correctly.

Ennoch · 03-03-2021, 03:55 PM

Given how much coding goes into every part it wouldn't surprise me if they haven't done this properly (I imagine it's dealer only rather than just a bodyshop thing). My dad's Evoque kept eating steering racks and the second to last one required a Bosch engineer to write specific code to make it work. Before that all the adaptive stuff in it wouldn't work.

cfm56d7b · 03-03-2021, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by robbiep

I would question whether the new rack has been connected and set up properly - or if it's the correct rack, as you've got VSS

Same perspective - it's either the wrong part (hopefully not) or the programming has not been properly done.

BBri89 · 03-04-2021, 02:03 AM

Yep, sounds either like a standard rack, or the VSS rack but not coded in.

I'd speak to insurance and explain, and ask that a BMW specialist or dealer diagnoses why it's not working as their approved repairer hasn't done the job correctly.

seenthelight! · 03-04-2021, 04:41 AM

Thanks for all the replies and advice guys - waiting on repair shops advice. Will update when able

Sasquartch · 03-04-2021, 06:04 AM

Nothing to do with whether its a VSS rack

The standard rack definitely needs coding

blau3er · 03-04-2021, 03:20 PM

Sounds like the repairer is clueless and doesn’t have the correct equipment to code this in.

Racks require coding.

03-03-2021, 10:58 AM	#1
seenthelight! Second Lieutenant 169 Rep 271 Posts Drives: bmw 435d f32 coupe Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: west yorkshire iTrader: (0)	Advice please! Car is 2017 435d, X drive with adaptive suspension. Badly kerbed the car in snow last month, which resulted in 2 new drivers side alloys/tyres, front suspension parts and a new steering rack. Just picked the repaired car up, and noticed that the steering weight does not alter in sport mode, regardless of settings in idrive. Before, if you configure sport to chassis/drivetrain, then the steering would get heavier. Set it to drivetrain only, and the steering was lighter. Now, whichever you select, there is no difference to the steering, it's still light. You could feel the difference in the settings whilst stationery, by moving the steering wheel. I pointed this out to the garage, who tested it and insist that it's ok - no alarms, so no faults. Could this be due to a newer/updated steering rack, and be the norm ? Or a coding issue - does a new steering rack need coding? Any advice welcome guys. __________________ Ex S3 & GLA45 AMG ... now 435d F32 coupe Last edited by seenthelight!; 03-03-2021 at 11:51 AM..
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03-03-2021, 11:35 AM	#2
mikeoz Major General 2856 Rep 5,607 Posts Drives: BMW X3 M40d LCI Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: cambs iTrader: (1)	Sounds more like a crash than "Kerbing" given that amount of work? Either way what you say does not sound right...may be try another dealer get a 2nd opinion?
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03-03-2021, 11:57 AM	#3
seenthelight! Second Lieutenant 169 Rep 271 Posts Drives: bmw 435d f32 coupe Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: west yorkshire iTrader: (0)	Skidded into the high kerb at approximately 5mph, can't believe the damage myself! Was an insurance approved repairer, not main dealer. Although they got all the parts from a local main dealer
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bishbosh Lieutenant Colonel 840 Rep 1,992 Posts Drives: F30 335d Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Sheffield iTrader: (1) Garage List 2014 BMW 335d [0.00]	As above, I'd also suggest perhaps the steering rack hasn't been programmed correctly. __________________ if I've helped - an Appreciate would be, er, very appreciated!
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03-03-2021, 03:55 PM	#6
Ennoch Colonel 2257 Rep 2,048 Posts Drives: F31 335D XDrive Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Scotland iTrader: (0)	Given how much coding goes into every part it wouldn't surprise me if they haven't done this properly (I imagine it's dealer only rather than just a bodyshop thing). My dad's Evoque kept eating steering racks and the second to last one required a Bosch engineer to write specific code to make it work. Before that all the adaptive stuff in it wouldn't work.
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03-04-2021, 02:03 AM	#8
BBri89 Captain 513 Rep 749 Posts Drives: F31 320d xDrive M Sport Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: West Sussex, UK iTrader: (0) Garage List 2015 BMW 320d xDriv ... [0.00]	Yep, sounds either like a standard rack, or the VSS rack but not coded in. I'd speak to insurance and explain, and ask that a BMW specialist or dealer diagnoses why it's not working as their approved repairer hasn't done the job correctly. __________________ 2015 F31 320d xDrive M Sport (Plus pack) *My progress thread*
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03-04-2021, 04:41 AM	#9
seenthelight! Second Lieutenant 169 Rep 271 Posts Drives: bmw 435d f32 coupe Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: west yorkshire iTrader: (0)	Thanks for all the replies and advice guys - waiting on repair shops advice. Will update when able
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03-04-2021, 06:04 AM	#10
Sasquartch Major 606 Rep 1,455 Posts Drives: 520i G30 Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Herts iTrader: (0)	Nothing to do with whether its a VSS rack The standard rack definitely needs coding
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03-04-2021, 03:20 PM	#11
blau3er Captain 1145 Rep 619 Posts Drives: F31 30d Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Sounds like the repairer is clueless and doesn’t have the correct equipment to code this in. Racks require coding.
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