[Wills2]

I forgot mention the auto wipers...bloody useless + even in manual mode the car doesn't have a "wiper goes mental" mode meaning in heavy rain the screen isn't cleared quickly enough.

DAB.....no signal black spots just when you want to listen to an interview etc..

RTTI......bloody phantom traffic jams and green when there is a 30 min hold up....

[teaston]

Originally Posted by Wills2

I know most of us love our cars, I love BMW I've got 2 on the drive and have had 9 (I think) but they're are not perfect here's my little list:

1. DCT when you reverse and then select D it doesn't always engage and you roll backwards, press the brake and release and bloody thing still falls backwards!

2. DCT start car flick into D press accelerator, NO! Your still in P....grrrrrr.

3. Park up open door then try and switch everything off, Your joking right? Bong! Warning car will roll away! (no it won't) this then sets of a series of button pressing and moaning whilst the car refuses to go into P and shut down...Grrrrrr, OK, OK I'll close the door and start again, you win!

4. Select reverse to go back into a parking spot between two cars, left hand mirror dips so you can't see the offside car. (I know flick the switch to the left) but it's annoying.

5. Time the pressing of the stop/start cancel button with the car shutting down as you stop (not easy but I manage it) and the car throws a strop and shuts down completely and goes into N just as you wanted to nip across the junction (hence you tried to switch the stop/start off.)

6. Which gear will I choose to set off in? I don't know maybe 2nd maybe 1st, you need to know but I won't decide until you try and tickle the throttle to nip out and I'll be in 2nd, whilst you sit there going come on! Move!

7. Rattles, random rattles, always different, keeps him guessing (it does rattle)

What are your little annoying niggles? (don't get me wrong I love my car and the above isn't a daily thing but nothings perfect, right?)

Sounds like all your problems could be solved by having a non M car!!

[FSE23]

I didn't even know what he was talking about

[....,,,,..,,..]

How limited voice control is.

The system in my 2007 Mondeo was far superior.

Not only could you control radio stations, dial phone numbers, choose between 6 X cd's and aux. You could also control fan speed, have the car go in to full demise, heated front and rear screens on with ceramic heater up and running in no time and of course cancel it.

Only one mirror dips, would be good if both were selectable separately or together.

[fastflyer]

- Dim ambient lighting
- Annoying cup holder cover/lid
- Playing music over bluetooth can be hit and miss
- Auto wipers are shite
- When selecting reverse, and then drive again the parking sensors stay on for a while

[Wills2]

Originally Posted by piono

I didn't even know what he was talking about

The clue is in the title....

[InquisitiveA]

Originally Posted by teaston

Sounds like all your problems could be solved by having a non M car!!

Or a manual gearbox.

[muckypup]

Originally Posted by Wills2;19017501DAB

.....no signal black spots just when you want to listen to an interview etc..

Not sure that's the fault of the car though.

My car previous to this was a Kia. I had no DAB on my driveway. So I took it back to the garage. "Can't find fault they said". Back home again, no DAB. Looking on the internet I found the Kia garage was 200 feet from a DAB transmitter. The car had awful reception and kia tried to charge me another 300 quid for an external antenna.

My F31 has perfect DAB reception on my drive and have yet to have it drop out even once so it has pretty good reception capability. So I would say if you find some place it drops out, it's probably very bad coverage in that area.

[edz_f06]

Originally Posted by planemad

I do not like the chair up and down prefer it be on a ratchet type lever. As sometimes you just fall to the floor. Also wife has the strength and weight of an ant so cannot operate it correct.

ROFL! My wife was exactly the same in the 320d, fortunately full electric seats has solved that problem!

[Ice Man]

Originally Posted by muckypup

3. Nasty rattle from behind the drivers seat later found to be 2 boxes of tic-tacs the kids left in the car.

[crowdedhouse]

The lack of a proper latch on the armrest compartment lid annoys me - feels really low rent.

[d4springer]

Originally Posted by Wills2

I know most of us love our cars, I love BMW I've got 2 on the drive and have had 9 (I think) but they're are not perfect here's my little list:

1. DCT when you reverse and then select D it doesn't always engage and you roll backwards, press the brake and release and bloody thing still falls backwards!

2. DCT start car flick into D press accelerator, NO! Your still in P....grrrrrr.

3. Park up open door then try and switch everything off, Your joking right? Bong! Warning car will roll away! (no it won't) this then sets of a series of button pressing and moaning whilst the car refuses to go into P and shut down...Grrrrrr, OK, OK I'll close the door and start again, you win!

4. Select reverse to go back into a parking spot between two cars, left hand mirror dips so you can't see the offside car. (I know flick the switch to the left) but it's annoying.

5. Time the pressing of the stop/start cancel button with the car shutting down as you stop (not easy but I manage it) and the car throws a strop and shuts down completely and goes into N just as you wanted to nip across the junction (hence you tried to switch the stop/start off.)

6. Which gear will I choose to set off in? I don't know maybe 2nd maybe 1st, you need to know but I won't decide until you try and tickle the throttle to nip out and I'll be in 2nd, whilst you sit there going come on! Move!

7. Rattles, random rattles, always different, keeps him guessing (it does rattle)

What are your little annoying niggles? (don't get me wrong I love my car and the above isn't a daily thing but nothings perfect, right?)

My car not being as nice as an M5

Oh and the start/stop thing, constantly forgetting to turn it off and realising when it cuts out at a busy junction, also being based the wrong side of the Forth Road Bridge compared to my customers, that's going to be a joy for the next few weeks!

[Watsey]

and, HBA is utterly useless. Doesn't dip for oncoming traffic.

[Musket]

What I find interesting is that what is a niggle for some is no issue for others.

For instance, the HBA is for my car, an amazingly accurate feature. Definitely something I will specify on future cars too.

My niggles are:

Not as much storage in the 3 series cabin as the 5 series. I wish they would have had the electronic hand brake too.. Not enough USB or 12V sockets. The background to the LCD display in the dash is too bright at night. The ambient lights aren't bright enough.

The satnav can be weird, and a good job I only use it really for traffic and that last few streets at the end of the journey. The inputting? Dire. It is quicker to send a destination from my phone than to sit either drawing or turning. The voice is worse than my Jag was 10 years ago.



But....

Still the best car I have ever had. Tried out launch control for the first time yesterday. Hoopy!

[Tengocity]

1) The crappy cheap plastic along the centre console, that you can play like a drum

2) The door handle being shaped to dig in to my knee when I'm on cruise control. It's also metal so is cold in winter... so nevermind heated seats and wheels, I'd like heated door handles!

3) Having to oil my door seals every week to avoid them creaking.

4) The road noise

[Topaz45]

Auto wipers....
Uncomfortable seats
knee constantly on console
Major failure which i will not go into at the moment..

[muckypup]

Originally Posted by Tengocity

nevermind heated seats and wheels

Heated wheels? Is that to keep the tyres warm?

Originally Posted by Tengocity

4) The road noise

I also have found there is a surprising about of road noise - even on 17" rims. It's not deafening but would have expected a car in this segment to be a little more quiet. Runflats causing it? It may also because the engine is so quiet you notice it more.

[Tengocity]

Originally Posted by muckypup

Heated wheels? Is that to keep the tyres warm?



I also have found there is a surprising about of road noise - even on 17" rims. It's not deafening but would have expected a car in this segment to be a little more quiet. Runflats causing it? It may also because the engine is so quiet you notice it more.

Apparently some of the soft southerners need them for their fingers!

I don't have runflats so that isn't the cause, and I wouldn't say that my engine is overly quiet either, but thankfully the 6 cyl diesel engine isn't bad sounding.
Overall though, the high speed refinement is the true area of improvement I think BMW need to make with the next 3 series. The other stuff is minor niggles, but if that was improved I really doubt I'd be tempted to look at a 5 series.

[muckypup]

Originally Posted by Tengocity

AI wouldn't say that my engine is overly quiet either, but thankfully the 6 cyl diesel engine isn't bad sounding.

Unfortunately I have not been in a pre-LCI or 6 cyl diesel (or any petrol BMW since my 1996 2.8 Z3) so can't compare my LCI 320d to those cars.... but compared to my ex-Kia Sportage, it purrs like a contented cat in a box with the box in the cupboard.

[you've been farmed]

BMW excelled themselves in finding square wheels to fit to theses cars, and then fitted bed springs to compensate.
They are not bad cars, but the ride/handling is the most disappointing aspect for me.
HBA does dazzle oncoming traffic too, so don't use it after a couple of attempts.
Stupid lid on front cupholders, what's that about?
Having a twin exhaust rather than the much nicer dual pipes!
Having said that, the wipers, bluetooth and Nav been okay so far.....

Oh, and the auto wipers needing activated every time.
Also, the bloody ventilation system won't remember its setting either, really stupid failings.

[Tengocity]

Originally Posted by you've been farmed

HBA does dazzle oncoming traffic too, so don't use it after a couple of attempts.

Do you have adaptive lights or just HBA?

After 2 years and a lot of miles I've found the lights to be absolutely superb to be honest. I'd suggest asking a dealership to check the settings on them first before you write them off.

[slink]

You could code out auto start/stop (or at least get it to remember where you left it!), and code the delay for PDC to switch off when you go forwards to less time.

DAB is shocking, compared to a Vectra with factory fit DAB, it only gets DAB for about 75% of the journey to Prestwick from Glasgow, the Vectra gets DAB all the way.

No DAB text function.

BMW coding out instant MPG on BC with a software update, haven't found the code to put it back.

No autodim driver's wing mirror.

No adjustment on the autodim mirror (something I asked BMW about in 2001 with my E46) - for when the idiot behind likes his high beam, but it's not dark enough for the mirror to realise it!

Slow BMW live - and a Streetview search that seems to take you to random places rather than where you want to see.

Turbo lag (320D) - even with start/stop off so the engine doesn't stop, it still seems to think a while at junctions before the turbo spins up enough to get you moving - then takes off rather quicker than expected!

Agree with the throttle pedal position, has anyone ever found somewhere comfortable to put their foot whilst on cruise for 300 miles - why doesn't the pedal "lock" like Peugeot so you can use it as a rest without accelerating (unless you press harder and overcome the lock - a nice touch!).

No split fold seats or load through as standard.

Having said that, we just had a brand new M 520D as a courtesy car...you think the F30 has a lot of plastic! Very disappointed, felt like a Japanese car in terms of interior quality.