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      03-30-2018, 11:55 AM   #1
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Can I run without tpms?

I’m getting 20in rims and ps4s on my 335. Supposedly a great day, but Tirebarn is just being full of BS. Long story short them simply told me they don’t have the tools to get tpms out of bmws...

They can only mount and balance my new wheels and tires. I called bmw and quoted me 300+ to get tires off again, and transfer the tpms. So I’m just considering not running with tpms because I just paid 100 to get them mounted and balanced.

Is that okay? As long as I check pressure regularly.
Such a bummer.
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      03-30-2018, 11:59 AM   #2
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Even though I’m pretty sure, but can someone reassure me that there’s no such “special tool” for bmw cars to remove tpms 😐
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      03-30-2018, 12:10 PM   #3
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It is in the valve stem you need tpms valve stems I think. You will need at least 30 psi in order to use sport mode or sport plus. If there is no tpms at all it may even go into limp home mode. I would use tire rack and call the installer about transferring/installing tpms. They will need to be registered to the car if you're getting new ones as the batteries will eventually die and you can't replace the batteries yourself.
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      03-30-2018, 12:27 PM   #4
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It is in the valve stem you need tpms valve stems I think. You will need at least 30 psi in order to use sport mode or sport plus. If there is no tpms at all it may even go into limp home mode. I would use tire rack and call the installer about transferring/installing tpms. They will need to be registered to the car if you're getting new ones as the batteries will eventually die and you can't replace the batteries yourself.
Do I need to balance again if I take tires out to put tpms on? I’m reusing my old ones
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      03-30-2018, 12:31 PM   #5
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It is in the valve stem you need tpms valve stems I think. You will need at least 30 psi in order to use sport mode or sport plus. If there is no tpms at all it may even go into limp home mode. I would use tire rack and call the installer about transferring/installing tpms. They will need to be registered to the car if you're getting new ones as the batteries will eventually die and you can't replace the batteries yourself.
Do I need to balance again if I take tires out to put tpms on? IÂ’m reusing my old ones
That should be included in the install. If they aren't balanced properly they aren't correctly installed.
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      03-30-2018, 12:42 PM   #6
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Do I need to balance again if I take tires out to put tpms on? I’m reusing my old ones
Not sure which scenario you are referring to in the above response, but if you take tpms out and reinstall, you certainly SHOULD rebalance tires. However, I am sure some would try and cheap out, not doing it.

As for original question, the TPMS come right off with a metric socket. Takes 5 seconds or less. They are giving you total BS.
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      03-30-2018, 12:51 PM   #7
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Not sure which scenario you are referring to in the above response, but if you take tpms out and reinstall, you certainly SHOULD rebalance tires. However, I am sure some would try and cheap out, not doing it.

As for original question, the TPMS come right off with a metric socket. Takes 5 seconds or less. They are giving you total BS.
I’m just sucking it up and trying to run without tpms for a period
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      03-30-2018, 12:54 PM   #8
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I’m just sucking it up and trying to run without tpms for a period
That’s ridiculous, quite frankly.

You are going to get warnings every 60 second on screen which you have to hit ok every time to make go away.
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      03-30-2018, 02:11 PM   #9
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I scheduled an appointment tomorrow morning at another place to get the old tpms out of the oem wheels and put them on the new 20inch with pp4s... another 100 bucks well spent ... what a day.
Btw I drove the car alil bit. The new tires are beast. Feels like I almost had changed the entire suspension lol.
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I scheduled an appointment tomorrow morning at another place to get the old tpms out of the oem wheels and put them on the new 20inch with pp4s... another 100 bucks well spent ... what a day.
Btw I drove the car alil bit. The new tires are beast. Feels like I almost had changed the entire suspension lol.
A good set of tires will feel like a whole different car
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I recently got a new set of wheels & tires and I forgot to replace the TPMS from my 403m set to my new one. I still run Sport and Sport+ without any problems but the Tire Pressure Malfunction icon is starting to bug me out after like a week so I'm probably going to have to buy some new sensors.
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I recently got a new set of wheels & tires and I forgot to replace the TPMS from my 403m set to my new one. I still run Sport and Sport+ without any problems but the Tire Pressure Malfunction icon is starting to bug me out after like a week so I'm probably going to have to buy some new sensors.
If you are not getting a pop up warning on screen every 60 seconds I’m Shocked.

I did when the tpms were not reporting pressure.
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      03-30-2018, 09:00 PM   #13
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If you are not getting a pop up warning on screen every 60 seconds I’m Shocked.

I did when the tpms were not reporting pressure.
I think it varies due to build date. Mine would let me drive, but no sport mode, and it doesn’t pop up after I click ok once lol.
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      03-30-2018, 09:10 PM   #14
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I was close to not bothering with TPMS. It's really another one of those things that should never have been invented to begin with. I hate TPMS.

On the Subaru, it amounted to a small orange light 6 months of the year. Big deal.

On this car ... DING DING TIRE WARNING DING DING TIRE

So I bought the stupid sensors. And I am glad I did. When I switch wheels, I can't get to sport mode initially as it says something tire malfunction something, until I reset the sensors. I suspect if I didn't have them, it'd be in crippled mode all the time. (Build date was 2016/11). And if you have state inspection that may fail you.
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      03-31-2018, 08:24 PM   #15
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I have been running without TPMS for two years now, I just press okay when I start my car to cancel the warning and that's pretty much it, the mode is not changing
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Shouldn't be an issue.
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You really shouldn't need to do this. I bought TPMS sensors for my winter wheel set from Discount Tire for not a lot of money when I bought the tires to go on my winter wheels. My local BMW Dealership wanted over $600 for a set of sensors, Discount Tire charged a ton less each for non-OEM sensors that worked perfectly. Tire Rack sells them for $54 each and I'm pretty sure I paid a lot less than that (it's early...totally don't remember how much).
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I got winter tires on my F30 when I had it for four years and didn't bother with tpms and did sport plus always and no warning ever came. It's not needed
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Get some off ebay.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/18316081098...84.m1558.l2649
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I got new wheels for my f30 recently and they don't have compatible TPMS sensors. I've been running without them for about a month now, and have no issues. even went drag racing and the car doesn't care. I can turn off DSC, enter sport mode, whatever. I get a warning message every time I start the car, it goes away, and that's that. if you can deal with the warning light being on the dash (not a big deal) and the warning everytime you start the car (also not a big deal, goes away in a few seconds) I wouldn't bother getting them. just be sure to manually check pressure regularly.
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I got new wheels for my f30 recently and they don't have compatible TPMS sensors. I've been running without them for about a month now, and have no issues. even went drag racing and the car doesn't care. I can turn off DSC, enter sport mode, whatever. I get a warning message every time I start the car, it goes away, and that's that. if you can deal with the warning light being on the dash (not a big deal) and the warning everytime you start the car (also not a big deal, goes away in a few seconds) I wouldn't bother getting them. just be sure to manually check pressure regularly.
Those warning lights would annoy me and you'll have to get tpms when it comes time to trade in or sell. I would at least get them when I get new tires so you don't have to remove the tires and put them in again. Also like being able to see my tire pressure on the i-drive. Only thing I don't like is being locked out of sport mode when the pressure is low, should be able to override that with just a warning message when entering sport mode. Interestingly you can still drive as fast as you want with low tire pressure.
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Those warning lights would annoy me and you'll have to get tpms when it comes time to trade in or sell. I would at least get them when I get new tires so you don't have to remove the tires and put them in again. Also like being able to see my tire pressure on the i-drive. Only thing I don't like is being locked out of sport mode when the pressure is low, should be able to override that with just a warning message when entering sport mode. Interestingly you can still drive as fast as you want with low tire pressure.
well according to the car, not low tire pressure, but no tire pressure, it just doesn't get a signal from the TPMS. but yah, I can use the car as I normally could. maybe when I get new tires I'll put TPMS sensors in, but for now it doesn't bother me. and as for trading or selling, I'll just put the stock wheels and tires back on.
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