05-10-2013, 01:36 PM | #1 |
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FSC Codes - do BMW charge dealers for them?
As I understand it, the dealer accesses a BMW parts website portal, uploads a data file and gets the FSC code which can be downloaded or manually input.
Just wondering (if anyone knows) whether BMW charges dealers for each FSC code generated? |
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Yes, and quite a bit too, ranging from $250 - $750.
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Thanks for the response.
So BMW will know what extras etc. a car has, and will charge a dealer when trying to retrofit or add an extra on for the code. Some extras just need a code to activate. What about requesting codes when re-coding? I assume if you request a code for an extra a car already has, BMW do not charge for this? I am confused why there is such a variance in how much dealers charge for map updates. Is this something BMW charge dealers for too? I've had quotes from dealers ranging from $200-450! |
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Most features that require FSC Codes, aka Enabling Codes, also require some encoding of the car's ECU's, and the FSC Code itself needs to be imported and activated in the relevant ECU using ISTA/P or some specialized application like E-Sys or FSTool. Dealer's just order FSC Codes though BMW's ASAP (After Sales Assistance Portal) for a specific VIN. BMW doesn't care what extras the car has or why it is being ordered. Once ordered for a car, it is part of that car's FSC Record, and replacements can be obtained for free. The prices from BMW are fixed, but Dealers mark them up, and the markup varies. Typically FSC Codes for BMW Apps and Satellite Radio are around $250 and FSC Codes for Navigation (the system not the maps), Voice Recognition and Night Vision are around $700. Map Update Codes are totally different though. The code itself can be generated by some outside of BMW, and the FSC Code for the map update can be entered into the Head Unit via the iDrive Controller. If you know where to look, you can download the original maps for free, and buy a map update FSC Code on the street for $50. So, you can update you Navigation Maps for very little money.
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05-11-2013, 08:42 AM | #5 |
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Cool - so that's made things clearer.
I was originally under the assumption that dealers could get free codes from BMW to activate new services/features. I found a PDF detailing the process a dealer goes through. If they request a repair code for a service/feature that is not linked to that vehicles VIN, it gets rejected. |
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But, if the car is brought to the dealer for programming, and ISTA/P performs a Measures Plan, assuming it can get past the hardware check (e.g. looking for CCC and can't find it because car has CIC), ISTA/P will Cancel the FSC Code in ECU when it determines that the Vehicle Order on BMW AG's server does not have the Option Code to warrant having the FSC Code.
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This is really useful and interesting.
So, if your car went for programming and had a Measures Plan with ISTA/P, you would lose BMW Apps? Essentially anything that is retrofitted needs to be official and the FSC code needs to be ordered from an official dealer (except for map updates)? |
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What happens then? You have to purchase a new 9C FSC code or does the existing one work still?
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No. It's toast when it is cacelled. There is a repair process that has to be done to get the FSC Code status from Cancelled back to Accepted.
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Question, what do you mean by get your vehicle coded? Do you mean for specialized customization features or when they have to do work on your vehicle and may require an update. I ask because my car is supposed to go into service on the 11th and just got an fsc code to update the map and dont want it to not work.
Also, are the map update FSC codes map year specific or can they be used for like a 2013 map update then a 2014 map update? |
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The NAV Update FSC Code is VIN, Map Year, and Map Region specific.
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Dealers pay for the FSC enabling codes. After its bought, its linked to the VIN for future repairs.
When I program a car at work, I can download repair enabling codes through ASAP. It includes all FSC codes for that specific car, and it is instant. A code for NAV can take 15min to 2 hours to recieve as available in ASAP. Repair codes are instantly available to the techs. Once we download them, they are saved automatically into our ISIS server for programming. Everything from there is taken care of through ISTA/P and BMW AG servers. I just picked up my 328 a couple days ago, Im going to code out the MSA function this week and see what else can be activated/deactivated through ISTA/P |
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To repair Cancelled FSC, you must delete all FSC Codes from Head Unit and replace them with the original ones. PM sent.
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