[vilord]

Good day!
I'm in the process of gathering parts to upgrade my e series car to NBT2.

I have an NBT2 evo, a touch screen, and an ATM on the way, all used/ebay parts.

I'd like to bench code them so they talk to each other before tearing apart the car.

Has anyone done this? I need to code the NBT with the vin in the ATM if I have any hope of connected drive working, so I'll probably buy an FSC repair kit using the VIN of the ATM... but how can I read out the vin in the ATM? Can e-sys talk to the ATM through the OABR ethernet connection, or will I need to buy a ZGW?

Thanks in advance!

[Vortex8]

I'd like to know if the bench coding is possible also for NBT ID4. It could really help to pre-code the stuf...

[Jhnblckwood]

Originally Posted by vilord

Good day!
I'm in the process of gathering parts to upgrade my e series car to NBT2.

I have an NBT2 evo, a touch screen, and an ATM on the way, all used/ebay parts.

I'd like to bench code them so they talk to each other before tearing apart the car.

Has anyone done this? I need to code the NBT with the vin in the ATM if I have any hope of connected drive working, so I'll probably buy an FSC repair kit using the VIN of the ATM... but how can I read out the vin in the ATM? Can e-sys talk to the ATM through the OABR ethernet connection, or will I need to buy a ZGW?

Thanks in advance!

Any info on this? I kno u can read the vin from tcb, there is a folder named vin n it's written in hex but idk if atm is the same file structure. Did u install the atm? U can try injecting the cafd, read coding data and see if there is a folder named vin. Don't code it first or vin would b over written in guessing. Lmk how u made out please as I am about to order an atm n the person doesn't kno the vin. If I can't figure out the original vin then there's no point of me buyin that one.

[vilord]

Originally Posted by Jhnblckwood

Any info on this? I kno u can read the vin from tcb, there is a folder named vin n it's written in hex but idk if atm is the same file structure. Did u install the atm? U can try injecting the cafd, read coding data and see if there is a folder named vin. Don't code it first or vin would b over written in guessing. Lmk how u made out please as I am about to order an atm n the person doesn't kno the vin. If I can't figure out the original vin then there's no point of me buyin that one.

Everything I've been told says that it isn't possible to read out the VIN from the ATM.
I don't have an F car and don't have a ZGW, so experimentation is difficult. I ended up buying an ATM from a local yard with a known VIN, and I'm going to return the ATM I bought of unknown origin.

I still need to figure out how to flash my evo without an f car...
Maybe I can rent/borrow a zgw and a can filter...

[justanurse]

Originally Posted by vilord

Everything I've been told says that it isn't possible to read out the VIN from the ATM.
I don't have an F car and don't have a ZGW, so experimentation is difficult. I ended up buying an ATM from a local yard with a known VIN, and I'm going to return the ATM I bought of unknown origin.

I still need to figure out how to flash my evo without an f car...
Maybe I can rent/borrow a zgw and a can filter...

You can try seeing if anyone around can do a bench flash for you that's best bet

[Jhnblckwood]

Originally Posted by vilord

Everything I've been told says that it isn't possible to read out the VIN from the ATM.
I don't have an F car and don't have a ZGW, so experimentation is difficult. I ended up buying an ATM from a local yard with a known VIN, and I'm going to return the ATM I bought of unknown origin.

I still need to figure out how to flash my evo without an f car...
Maybe I can rent/borrow a zgw and a can filter...

Did u already try to code the atm u have now?

[vilord]

Haven't tried to code the ATM yet.
I sent back the one I got from laautoparts, which has an unknown VIN.
I was told that if I connected it to an evo with a different vin, it would reset itself and be unusable, so I didn't bother with it.
I now have a ZGW and I have upgraded my ID5 evo to the 2018-07 psdzdata. I updated the ZGW and evo to match the VIN of the vehicle the ATM came out of (this required purchasing an FSC retrofit kit from a guy in Italy).

Once I find the connectors for making the OABR cable, I'm going to connect the ATM to the evo and see if it magically works, or if it blows up in my face. yay.

[vilord]

(And yes, this is all on the bench)

[sj22]

Originally Posted by vilord

(And yes, this is all on the bench)

Hey looks like we are in the same boat. I just bought the atm from laautoparts and saw your post. I ended up buying an ATM harness from a guy in UK.

Who told you atm will reset if connected to different VIN EVO HU?

[vilord]

It was in one of the 3 or 4 dozen threads I went through...

I don't think I believe it, since I accidentally left my ATM connected while working on another user's EVO in my car, and nothing got wiped, but I suppose there's a chance.

I also found that I was able to read the ATM's donor vin from ESYS, contrary to what everyone had been saying. I needed to connect to it through a ZGW, read the coding, and it was one of the various coding items (there aren't many)

[Jhnblckwood]

Originally Posted by vilord

It was in one of the 3 or 4 dozen threads I went through...

I don't think I believe it, since I accidentally left my ATM connected while working on another user's EVO in my car, and nothing got wiped, but I suppose there's a chance.

I also found that I was able to read the ATM's donor vin from ESYS, contrary to what everyone had been saying. I needed to connect to it through a ZGW, read the coding, and it was one of the various coding items (there aren't many)

U was able to read our donor atm vin? Was it written in hex? Thank you

[pcamera123]

Originally Posted by vilord

I also found that I was able to read the ATM's donor vin from ESYS, contrary to what everyone had been saying. I needed to connect to it through a ZGW, read the coding, and it was one of the various coding items (there aren't many)

Mind elaborating on where you went too to read that vin ? Im also in the same boat

[vilord]

I'll have to look once I get my ATM reinstalled in my new car... old car was totaled and new car still has a TCU/MULF.

[Ddayan97]

Hey guys, I’m not nearly as advanced as any of you are here. I do have a brand new ATM fitted to my F83, as well as a full NBT Evo retrofit. The Evo was bench coded and flashed correctly to my VIN. The ATM was not bench coded,( we were not aware this was possible,) and has never shown up on my E-sys to even code. It is connected with a retrofit harness I bought on eBay from a seller in the UK, and the GPS extension loop is connected as well. Right now I have an SOS error and no connected drive services, well because my car does not even recognize the ATM is there. I’ve replaced the battery but no luck.

Any and all help is appreciated, I’m not sure what I should do. The only thing I could think of was to have it removed and bench code it.

Thanks

[IK6SPEED]

Originally Posted by Ddayan97

Hey guys, I'm not nearly as advanced as any of you are here. I do have a brand new ATM fitted to my F83, as well as a full NBT Evo retrofit. The Evo was bench coded and flashed correctly to my VIN. The ATM was not bench coded,( we were not aware this was possible,) and has never shown up on my E-sys to even code. It is connected with a retrofit harness I bought on eBay from a seller in the UK, and the GPS extension loop is connected as well. Right now I have an SOS error and no connected drive services, well because my car does not even recognize the ATM is there. I've replaced the battery but no luck.

Any and all help is appreciated, I'm not sure what I should do. The only thing I could think of was to have it removed and bench code it.

Thanks

Even if you could code it properly, it would not work as the SIM in the ATM does not match the SIM assigned to your VIN in the BMW System.

In simplistic terms, the ATM/TCB acts as a smartphone.

It's like adding a smartphone to your account without the proper SIM the Network is expecting to be there. Just having a used ATM will not allow it to work on a Network without the proper SIM card.

It simply will not work, even if your VIN was coded correctly in it.

The SIM in the ATM is not assigned in the BMW Computers to your car, but another one.

Read this thread:


Activating Connected Drive, Live & Internet on a retrofitted NBT EVO https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1246508

[Ddayan97]

Originally Posted by IK6SPEED

Even if you could code it properly, it would not work as the SIM in the ATM does not match the SIM assigned to your VIN in the BMW System.

In simplistic terms, the ATM/TCB acts as a smartphone.

It's like adding a smartphone to your account without the proper SIM the Network is expecting to be there. Just having a used ATM will not allow it to work on a Network without the proper SIM card.

It simply will not work, even if your VIN was coded correctly in it.

The SIM in the ATM is not assigned in the BMW Computers to your car, but another one.

Read this thread:


Activating Connected Drive, Live & Internet on a retrofitted NBT EVO https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1246508

Thanks IK6SPEED

My ATM is brand new, unassigned. Does your advice still hold? Any suggestions on a dealer who’s had BMW do this before?

Thanks again

[IK6SPEED]

Originally Posted by Ddayan97

Thanks IK6SPEED

My ATM is brand new, unassigned. Does your advice still hold? Any suggestions on a dealer who's had BMW do this before?

Thanks again

I have not purchased an ATM from a Dealer so I have zero first hand experience in that scenario.

2 other posters have stated they did purchase from Dealer (Parts Department) and the VIN was required for purchase (to be pre-coded in ATM).

If you will read those threads, you will notice I asked specific follow up questions (as I was surprised Dealer would sell ATM coded for a pre-LCI car that had a TCB. You will also notice both posters never again responded to their threads.

So I have real questions about this myself, but only relaying what 2 others who have ghosted their thread have stated.

I do know 100% if the VIN in the ATM and SIM doesn't match what's in BMW Connect's database, it will NOT be working.

[Ddayan97]

Originally Posted by IK6SPEED

I have not purchased an ATM from a Dealer so I have zero first hand experience in that scenario.

2 other posters have stated they did purchase from Dealer (Parts Department) and the VIN was required for purchase (to be pre-coded in ATM).

If you will read those threads, you will notice I asked specific follow up questions (as I was surprised Dealer would sell ATM coded for a pre-LCI car that had a TCB. You will also notice both posters never again responded to their threads.

So I have real questions about this myself, but only relaying what 2 others who have ghosted their thread have stated.

I do know 100% if the VIN in the ATM and SIM doesn't match what's in BMW Connect's database, it will NOT be working.

SIM is now registered to my VIN! I love my new Service Advisor, that’s all I’m gonna day for that. We were able to email the Connected Services team and they swapped the old IMEI of the 3G TCB for the 4G ATM. Now my issue is the retrofit harness from Topdonas, it might be flipped, I will retry and get back to everyone.

[justplain]

Hey guys, I've been looking at what is needed to bench code a BMW headunit using an ENET cable and cant find a definitive guide on the EXACT requirements.
Could you please list the required cables/adapters/looms/control units etc?
Much appreciated.

[LongRuf]

Originally Posted by Ddayan97

SIM is now registered to my VIN! I love my new Service Advisor, that’s all I’m gonna day for that. We were able to email the Connected Services team and they swapped the old IMEI of the 3G TCB for the 4G ATM. Now my issue is the retrofit harness from Topdonas, it might be flipped, I will retry and get back to everyone.

Ddayan97 - What ever came of this? Did you get it figured out?

[Wibbles]

For bench coding an NBT Evo you need a ZGW & can signal generator to wake the headunit and keep it awake - I have a set from this guy:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/COMPLETE-KI...YAAOSwVtZaKPrL

And it works well except the can emulator I changed out for a better one.

[Ddayan97]

Originally Posted by LongRuf

Ddayan97 - What ever came of this? Did you get it figured out?

Still haven't opened up trunk to get to the ATM, sorry to keep you all waiting