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      01-31-2021, 03:40 AM   #1
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2015 428i xdrive

I’ve been dropped on air ride 3p air suspension for 3 years with no issues. I recently went from a 19” staggered set up to an 18” set up last week and have blown through 2 axles since. Each time on the passenger side. I’m now hearing that x drive can’t handle a severe drop but again I’ve been low for years with no issue. Even now I’m not running an extremely low ride height. Anyone have any ideas what could be causing this repetitive axle issue.

Again the axle is pulling out completely. I’ll include a video for reference.
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I also have blown 2 front axles i learned that you have to get an alignment right away also the angle of your lowest height puts a ton of stress on the 3 ball joints and often snap out of place another thing is your damper set up the stiffer the less play
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I also have blown 2 front axles i learned that you have to get an alignment right away also the angle of your lowest height puts a ton of stress on the 3 ball joints and often snap out of place another thing is your damper set up the stiffer the less play
After you got your alignment did that solve your axle issues? I think you’re right about the dampening too. I recently changed the setting to a softer setting and that may be contributing as well. My last alignment was done when I was on 19” wheel set up. After switching to the 18” I popped 2 axles and now I’m realizing that may be due to the 18’s being causing more stress up front since they’re lower.

I’ll replace the axle, get an alignment and keep this post updated. Thanks for your input!
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I also have blown 2 front axles i learned that you have to get an alignment right away also the angle of your lowest height puts a ton of stress on the 3 ball joints and often snap out of place another thing is your damper set up the stiffer the less play
After you got your alignment did that solve your axle issues? I think you’re right about the dampening too. I recently changed the setting to a softer setting and that may be contributing as well. My last alignment was done when I was on 19” wheel set up. After switching to the 18” I popped 2 axles and now I’m realizing that may be due to the 18’s being causing more stress up front since they’re lower.

I’ll replace the axle, get an alignment and keep this post updated. Thanks for your input!
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I also have blown 2 front axles i learned that you have to get an alignment right away also the angle of your lowest height puts a ton of stress on the 3 ball joints and often snap out of place another thing is your damper set up the stiffer the less play
After you got your alignment did that solve your axle issues? I think you’re right about the dampening too. I recently changed the setting to a softer setting and that may be contributing as well. My last alignment was done when I was on 19” wheel set up. After switching to the 18” I popped 2 axles and now I’m realizing that may be due to the 18’s being causing more stress up front since they’re lower.

I’ll replace the axle, get an alignment and keep this post updated. Thanks for your input!
im running 18s with chunky tires and alignment helped alot i also raised the car a bit just small tweaks
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      02-07-2021, 09:04 PM   #5
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I also have blown 2 front axles i learned that you have to get an alignment right away also the angle of your lowest height puts a ton of stress on the 3 ball joints and often snap out of place another thing is your damper set up the stiffer the less play
After you got your alignment did that solve your axle issues? I think you’re right about the dampening too. I recently changed the setting to a softer setting and that may be contributing as well. My last alignment was done when I was on 19” wheel set up. After switching to the 18” I popped 2 axles and now I’m realizing that may be due to the 18’s being causing more stress up front since they’re lower.

I’ll replace the axle, get an alignment and keep this post updated. Thanks for your input!
Why do you think that 18" wheels are lower than 19" wheels? Wheel size is meaningless to ride height. It's the tire diameter that determines height.

To find out if there was a change, go to the TireRack website and look up the measured diameter of your specific 18" tire and your 19" tire. They should be around 26.0". If there is any difference, then divide that difference by 2 to determine how much the center-point of your wheel may have changed in height from the ground. Doubtful if it changed much at all unless one of your tires had an out of the ordinary sidewall height.
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Just curious to know how would you know if you have blown your axels? What changes will I notice on the car?
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18" or 19" don't mean anything unless you put some tires with serious sidewalls, but I'd expect the car to start tossing a crap-ton of errors since the wheel speed doesn't match the transmission speed.

I'd say it's because you didn't do the alignment. You basically just killed the CV joints.
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Wanted to update.

Long story short it seemed to be a combination of a weak/failing motor mount, and lack of an alignment. Also x-drive cars are more prone for this issue form what I've found.
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