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I do think that if it's snowing out, it's not worth going out unless for an emergency. I work from home though so it's a lot easier for me than someone with a commute. If I had to go through snow on a frequent basis, I probably would go AWD. |
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10-13-2016, 07:28 PM | #46 |
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The similar WA State standard requires a minimum of 4/32" on tires rated M+S. Just because RAK didn't elaborate the entire standard and laws doesn't mean you have to post so obtusely.
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10-13-2016, 07:44 PM | #48 | |
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Regardless, you would be better off driving RWD with good snow tires than average m+s tires all the way down to 4/32" with AWD. I have some experience of lawmakers, specifically in California, writing legislation using even less supporting info or practical method of enforcement, so it's not outside of the realm of possibility. To be fair, I did get off topic, so back to the general point, such enforcement might be a reasonable excuse to select all wheel drive, or hills as I had already stated, but often the statement of "if you get snow you need AWD" is not qualified with such reasonable info, just spewed blindly. That's all I really take issue with as it causes some buyers to miss out and en masse it continues to dilute the BMW sport sedan. Last edited by metallicpea; 10-13-2016 at 08:06 PM.. |
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10-14-2016, 03:16 AM | #50 |
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Tractors are great in the snow
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10-14-2016, 03:44 AM | #51 |
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Thanks all for yet another fascinating x-drive vs RWD debate, it made me remember I had to order a winter set up for my 435-xdrive before the tires I wanted got hard to find.
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10-14-2016, 07:12 AM | #52 |
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Said 'debate' always has the same result. RWD owners tend to say "I don't need XDrive", XDrive owners tend to say "I like it". What you don't see is a member of either camp saying "Don't get what I have".
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10-14-2016, 07:21 AM | #53 | |
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Debate was more over statemens like "there's snow you must get AWD" or one I personally hate "I've got AWD I don't need "no" winter tires". Whatever makes one happy, AWD, RWD even FWD, no judgment . |
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10-14-2016, 08:13 AM | #54 |
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+1!
I was able to get the snow tires I wanted. I usually wait too long and have to go with a second choice, so thanks to all for the reminder.
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10-14-2016, 08:57 AM | #55 | |
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That's exactly why my wife's AWD has Michelin xIce (great but not my first choice). Same as you, this time I was a bit smarter, just placed my order for new set of Nokians yesterday. |
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10-14-2016, 09:23 AM | #56 | |
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The issue is when advice is provided with key information missing. That is all. I appreciate the people here and especially enjoy the points of view of others who are into their cars. I don't have these discussions to impose my ideas, just understand those of others.
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10-14-2016, 09:24 AM | #57 |
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Good news.
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10-14-2016, 10:33 AM | #58 |
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Not really. My 4WD Kubota requires chains if you want to do any pushing or pulling in the snow. I've even high-centered it plowing snow!
My current 335d isn't, of course, AWD. With snow tires, it's adequate in most circumstances. In those circumstances where it isn't adequate, I'll take my 4WD truck or my wife's 328xd. I hate it when going down the unplowed Forest Service road in my car when the snow blows up on the windshield and I have to steer by looking out the side window. |
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If someone was looking for a track car or live in a sunny state then i'd say don't get what I have (xDrive)
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10-14-2016, 03:48 PM | #60 |
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not sure if it was discussed, but I would go to empty road, DSC OFF, rev engine/drop clutch
you'll know with 100% certainly what the drive configuration is |
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10-17-2016, 08:45 AM | #61 |
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I can see this thread got a little out of hand
Just to give you an update, I decided not to go with that car. Price was good but I really wanted to go with something that had xDrive. BTW, the dealer never got back to me. Even though it was from a Nissan dealer, was a little too shady for me. This is not my first BMW, and I can say that the winter months in Montreal have actually been really mild in the last couple of years whereas some other parts of Canada and the US have triple our snow fall. But BMWs RWD have gotten better with the traction control but when there's a nice chunk of snow that just fell, there's nothing like an AWD. BMWs RWD propulsion is just too addictive and if I wasn't living in a city with winter months of snow, I would have stuck with RWD, but I've gotten into too much trouble with the E90 years ago when there were days that the snow was just too much. Thanks for all your help everyone. Cheers |
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Just move away from Westmount, the rest of the city is more flat, shouldn't be an issue.
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This started out as ...."how to tell if its x drive'.................. |
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Emblems can be installed to give a superficial spike in resale value. Always run the VIN over relying on labels.
I made the mistake once in buying a used 'S-LINE' A4 Quattro.. I learned to check the VIN after finding out it was not a Quattro. Same happened to my ex when she bought a 328 off a used car lot and found out later it was not xdrive |
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