[RogHer]

Job done as far as I'm concerned, with a question mark over pricing, which is something you could say for most JLR products.

[JustChris]

I love the interior dash desk and the option for walkthrough vs centre console vs seat!

[Watsey]

I think it's a very clever and appealing design - JLR has really thought this through well.

A pity there isn't a gutsy 6-cyl diesel in the range but with the 2.0L diesel units pumping out 199g/km CO2 it's not surprising. I looked up the CO2 for our 2.0D KIA Sorento : 145g for the manual; 161g for the auto. OK, the off-road capabilities will be quite different, but the weights will probably be similar. Looks like the new Defender is a bit of a dirty beast.

[awd2510]

After testing the latest discovery, MRT have been waiting for info on this for a while. However, as it stands, I don't think our MR team will be rushing out to replace our current two 110 work horses. Would be interesting to see what JLR do for commercial customers.

[MashinBenzin]

Originally Posted by Watsey

I think it's a very clever and appealing design - JLR has really thought this through well.

A pity there isn't a gutsy 6-cyl diesel in the range but with the 2.0L diesel units pumping out 199g/km CO2 it's not surprising. I looked up the CO2 for our 2.0D KIA Sorento : 145g for the manual; 161g for the auto. OK, the off-road capabilities will be quite different, but the weights will probably be similar. Looks like the new Defender is a bit of a dirty beast.

Interesting point. Caused me to look up my Disco SDV6, which turned out to be 198g/km. Thought that made the 2.0 Defender look bad at 199, but then checked the Discovery 2.0 SD4 and that is 194g/km.

Looks like the bigger engine carries very little mpg/emissions penalty over the 4 cylinder - probably due to the four working pretty hard to shift 2.5 tonnes.

NB. Looks like the Sorrento is about 500kg lighter than the LRs.

[MashinBenzin]

I just realised why there is no six cylinder diesel yet on the Defender.

The SDV6 used in the Range Rovers and Discovery is Ford-sourced with supply ending next year (iirc).

The new Ingenium in line six is coming on stream - but they seem to have focussed resources on the petrol mild hybrid first. The diesel is expected in 2020/2021, I think.

I guess it makes no sense to engineer the Defender for a V6 that will end production soon, hence fours and the petrol I6 for now.

[Watsey]

Originally Posted by MashinBenzin

Interesting point. Caused me to look up my Disco SDV6, which turned out to be 198g/km. Thought that made the 2.0 Defender look bad at 199, but then checked the Discovery 2.0 SD4 and that is 194g/km.

Looks like the bigger engine carries very little mpg/emissions penalty over the 4 cylinder - probably due to the four working pretty hard to shift 2.5 tonnes.

NB. Looks like the Sorrento is about 500kg lighter than the LRs.

I had a quick look for the weight of the Defender but didn't find it. 500kg is obviously quite a difference.

The 2L D is going to be working hard to shift 2.5tonnes.

[MashinBenzin]

Originally Posted by Watsey

I had a quick look for the weight of the Defender but didn't find it. 500kg is obviously quite a difference.

The 2L D is going to be working hard to shift 2.5tonnes.

I think I heard on one of the videos that the 110 is similar in weight to the Disco. 2.5 is a bit of rounding from me, but probably about right for a high spec one. Apparently even the old 110 was about 2.1 - which surprised me!