Not so luckyb: incorrect fluid counter

LuckyB · 08-27-2023, 07:26 PM

Just got home to Florida from a 500 mile trip.
About half way home I got the incorrect fluid counter.
Made the decision to drive home and to stay aware not to turn the car off
I haven't tried to start it since I shut it off. At 0 miles

Did a short amount of research on the drive:
Looks like a tune/delete or go on the dealership dollar ride are my only two options. Please correct if I'm wrong.

Doesn't look like Kerma could help seeing that they want you to not delete

I was looking at the rawtech kit with the tunezilla for about $2k here https://www.rawtekinc.com/products/b...39654405111854

Probably be another $1k for the labor.

I was thinking about flushing the system but wondering since I already went past the countdown if that would even help now.

Any insight?

MechWatch · 08-28-2023, 12:45 PM

Haven't worked on my diesel in a minute but if you have other codes indicating bad NOX sensors:
https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...9#post29011769

I imagine you are past the 10/120k extended NOX sensor warranty.

cezar22 · 08-31-2023, 12:44 PM

And this kinda crap is why I did the delete. I'm not trying to kill Bambi, but when manufacturers stick a bunch of unreliable and overpriced parts onto a car, it's only rational to expect people to rip them out. If you get that kit I would probably recommend not getting the resonator. I did the cat which I'm ambivalent about, but I don't get much drone noise. It's actually pretty quiet for the most part- louder than stock but not by a whole lot, and its a low rumble type sound.

Enabled · 09-01-2023, 09:51 AM

The DEF system has nothing to do with the DPF system, so you're spending money on a delete that doesn't apply. Send me a PM with error code reads and more details, maybe there's a way to revive it easier.

LuckyB · 09-02-2023, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enabled

The DEF system has nothing to do with the DPF system, so you're spending money on a delete that doesn't apply. Send me a PM with error code reads and more details, maybe there's a way to revive it easier.

The kit listed says def/dpf

Do you still think it's not helpful?

I would send codes but I didn't waste any time. Kit purchased and at the shop

LuckyB · 09-02-2023, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cezar22

And this kinda crap is why I did the delete. I'm not trying to kill Bambi, but when manufacturers stick a bunch of unreliable and overpriced parts onto a car, it's only rational to expect people to rip them out. If you get that kit I would probably recommend not getting the resonator. I did the cat which I'm ambivalent about, but I don't get much drone noise. It's actually pretty quiet for the most part- louder than stock but not by a whole lot, and its a low rumble type sound.

I went with the resonator no cat.

We'll see how it goes.

capt_slow · 09-03-2023, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enabled

The DEF system has nothing to do with the DPF system, so you're spending money on a delete that doesn't apply. Send me a PM with error code reads and more details, maybe there's a way to revive it easier.

Agree. Incorrect fluid code probably means the delivery unit failed or there is a leak in the system.

rparnel1 · 09-05-2023, 07:01 AM

I also received the "incorrect fluid - no start" countdown message earlier this year. The codes stored indicated one or more NOx sensors were bad. It is rarely the fluid is actually bad. Always some part or component failure.

In my case, I took it to dealer. They replaced both NOx sensors under the BMW warranty they extended to 120K just for the sensors. Still didn't fix issue, so they replaced the Catalytic Converter, which solved the issue. The Cat was not covered under warranty (car is a 2014 with 112K miles) and was not cheap. Around $3K

LuckyB · 09-05-2023, 07:29 AM

Fortunately I'm no longer under warranty. Hopefully the delete and tune fix the issue.

LuckyB · 11-17-2023, 11:15 PM

Update:

Car has been at the shop since the first of September or so.

Went with this kit https://www.rawtekinc.com/products/b...delete-exhaust

Mechanic wanted to use his own tuner instead of Tunezilla.

Apparently they are doing some fine tuning and had to send the ECU going back and forth.

Don't know much about tuning but once it's done and say I want to switch to another tuner, how hard is it?

08-27-2023, 07:26 PM	#1
LuckyB Enlisted Member 0 Rep 39 Posts Drives: 2016 328D Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Volusia County iTrader: (0)	Not so luckyb: incorrect fluid counter Just got home to Florida from a 500 mile trip. About half way home I got the incorrect fluid counter. Made the decision to drive home and to stay aware not to turn the car off I haven't tried to start it since I shut it off. At 0 miles Did a short amount of research on the drive: Looks like a tune/delete or go on the dealership dollar ride are my only two options. Please correct if I'm wrong. Doesn't look like Kerma could help seeing that they want you to not delete I was looking at the rawtech kit with the tunezilla for about $2k here https://www.rawtekinc.com/products/b...39654405111854 Probably be another $1k for the labor. I was thinking about flushing the system but wondering since I already went past the countdown if that would even help now. Any insight?
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08-28-2023, 12:45 PM	#2
MechWatch New Member 8 Rep 11 Posts Drives: 2000 323CiC 2014 328dX Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Meeechigan iTrader: (0)	Haven't worked on my diesel in a minute but if you have other codes indicating bad NOX sensors: https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...9#post29011769 I imagine you are past the 10/120k extended NOX sensor warranty.
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08-31-2023, 12:44 PM	#3
cezar22 Private 19 Rep 88 Posts Drives: 2016 328dX Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: The South iTrader: (0)	And this kinda crap is why I did the delete. I'm not trying to kill Bambi, but when manufacturers stick a bunch of unreliable and overpriced parts onto a car, it's only rational to expect people to rip them out. If you get that kit I would probably recommend not getting the resonator. I did the cat which I'm ambivalent about, but I don't get much drone noise. It's actually pretty quiet for the most part- louder than stock but not by a whole lot, and its a low rumble type sound.
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Enabled Lieutenant Colonel 1410 Rep 1,810 Posts Drives: 328xd Wagon, M2 Competition Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Houston iTrader: (0)	The DEF system has nothing to do with the DPF system, so you're spending money on a delete that doesn't apply. Send me a PM with error code reads and more details, maybe there's a way to revive it easier. __________________ -2014 328d Wagon, 8HP. Self-tuned, 270hp/430ft-lbs. -2019 M2 Competition MT, Alpine White. Self-tuned 560hp -2016 Mini Cooper S, MT. Many plans. Others: -E36 328is. 2000 Z3 Roady. 2003 VW Jetta TDI Manual. Estoril Z3M Coupe.
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09-05-2023, 07:01 AM	#8
rparnel1 Enlisted Member 21 Rep 49 Posts Drives: 2014 328d Join Date: May 2016 Location: Cleburne, Texas iTrader: (0)	I also received the "incorrect fluid - no start" countdown message earlier this year. The codes stored indicated one or more NOx sensors were bad. It is rarely the fluid is actually bad. Always some part or component failure. In my case, I took it to dealer. They replaced both NOx sensors under the BMW warranty they extended to 120K just for the sensors. Still didn't fix issue, so they replaced the Catalytic Converter, which solved the issue. The Cat was not covered under warranty (car is a 2014 with 112K miles) and was not cheap. Around $3K
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09-05-2023, 07:29 AM	#9
LuckyB Enlisted Member 0 Rep 39 Posts Drives: 2016 328D Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Volusia County iTrader: (0)	Fortunately I'm no longer under warranty. Hopefully the delete and tune fix the issue.
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11-17-2023, 11:15 PM	#10
LuckyB Enlisted Member 0 Rep 39 Posts Drives: 2016 328D Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Volusia County iTrader: (0)	Update: Car has been at the shop since the first of September or so. Went with this kit https://www.rawtekinc.com/products/b...delete-exhaust Mechanic wanted to use his own tuner instead of Tunezilla. Apparently they are doing some fine tuning and had to send the ECU going back and forth. Don't know much about tuning but once it's done and say I want to switch to another tuner, how hard is it?
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