[siross]

Morning all,

Looking at replacing my rear brake pads in the next month or 2, want to make sure I get the correct ones, are these the correct ones:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EBC-YELLOW...8AAOSwdpxUVO~Y

Any suggestions on best/cheapest place to purchase?

Thanks,

Simon

[rossm]

Having witnessed a set of EBC Yellowstuff crumbling into bits a little fast road use where big chunks of pad come off with each press of the pedal, I would never use them on any car

Not my pic, plenty of others on google image search though





Have been quite happy with Ferodo DS2500 for both road and light track duties in other cars, and good levels of dust too.

[Watsey]

Originally Posted by rossm

Having witnessed a set of EBC Yellowstuff crumbling into bits a little fast road use where big chunks of pad come off with each press of the pedal, I would never use them on any car

Not my pic, plenty of others on google image search though





Have been quite happy with Ferodo DS2500 for both road and light track duties in other cars, and good levels of dust too.

Faulty batch ? I've tracked my car with EBC Yellows and there's no sign of anything like that degradation.

Yes they faded, but they retained their structural integrity.

[siross]

That's strange, EBC yellowstuff seem to be the go to product...

OEM pads seem quite expensive online.

[Watsey]

Originally Posted by siross

That's strange, EBC yellowstuff seem to be the go to product...

OEM pads seem quite expensive online.

Yes, several on the forum are running them. I haven't tried Ferrodo DS2500s as I've heard that they can be noisy.

You could have a chat with Roy at CA Automotive - very helpful and may be able to advise alternatives matched to your needs.

[magic juan]

If the car isn't being used on track I'd probably just use Pagid / Brembo stock replacement pads to be honest. Pagid's brake book will help you be sure you get the right pads.

http://www.brakebook.com/bb/pagid/en...onSearch.xhtml

Be careful if going with Ferrodo DS2500's. They are not approved to ECE R90 ("Reg 90") and as such are marketed as track day pads, not to be used on public roads in applications where the car was built after 1999.

I know it's a long shot, but if you suffered a total loss and an assessor picked up on the pads not being road legal you'd be on to plums getting any pay out. All depends on your attitude to risk.

[teaston]

Originally Posted by rossm

Having witnessed a set of EBC Yellowstuff crumbling into bits a little fast road use where big chunks of pad come off with each press of the pedal, I would never use them on any car

Not my pic, plenty of others on google image search though





Have been quite happy with Ferodo DS2500 for both road and light track duties in other cars, and good levels of dust too.

How old are those photos? EBC completely changed the pad material a few years ago.

[siross]

Originally Posted by magic juan

If the car isn't being used on track I'd probably just use Pagid / Brembo stock replacement pads to be honest. Pagid's brake book will help you be sure you get the right pads.

http://www.brakebook.com/bb/pagid/en...onSearch.xhtml

Be careful if going with Ferrodo DS2500's. They are not approved to ECE R90 ("Reg 90") and as such are marketed as track day pads, not to be used on public roads in applications where the car was built after 1999.

I know it's a long shot, but if you suffered a total loss and an assessor picked up on the pads not being road legal you'd be on to plums getting any pay out. All depends on your attitude to risk.

Are the Pagid / Brembo pads any good? I'm definitely not going to be taking it round a track but I'd want to ensure I've got good brake performance, it's not something I'd like to second guess to be honest.

I wouldn't take a risk on non road legal pads either...

[magic juan]

Both Pagid and Brembo are OEM quality as are ATE.

Don't think Pagid have a fast road application pad available for the F3X yet, they do an RS4-2-1 pad for the E90 and older generation BMW's.

[siross]

Originally Posted by magic juan

Both Pagid and Brembo are OEM quality as are ATE.

Don't think Pagid have a fast road application pad available for the F3X yet, they do an RS4-2-1 pad for the E90 and older generation BMW's.

So in theory they will perform exactly the same as OEM pads?

Brembo pads are only £34.99 from Eurocarparts, they've got a 30% code at the minute.

OEM pads are ~£90

[Watsey]

Brembo will be absolutely fine for general road use. Changing pads us an easy DIY job.

[siross]

Originally Posted by Watsey

Brembo will be absolutely fine for general road use. Changing pads us an easy DIY job.

I might go for the Brembo pads then. I really want to give it a go myself. I've been watching some videos and it seems fairly straight forward...

Am I right in thinking I'll need:

- Set of brake pads
- 1 x wear sensor (or is there one for each wheel). Is this OK?
- Hydraulic jack
- Wheel bolt wrench
- Alan key tool (to remove caliper)

Do I also need:
- Anti squeak compound?
- Synthetic break grease (to lubricate bushing screws)?

This is the video I've seen:

[Watsey]

You may not need a new wear sensor - depends if the current one had been worn if the pads are particularly low.

Anti-squeal can make a useful difference.

I'd use a torque wrench to torque the bolts correctly when refitting.

You can use copper grease on the nibs and carriers for the pads and the caliper sliders, but personally I wouldn't grease any bolts.

Irrespective of fixed or floating, a piston retractor makes the job easier.

[siross]

Originally Posted by Watsey

You may not need a new wear sensor - depends if the current one had been worn if the pads are particularly low.

Anti-squeal can make a useful difference.

I'd use a torque wrench to torque the bolts correctly when refitting.

You can use copper grease on the nibs and carriers for the pads and the caliper sliders, but personally I wouldn't grease any bolts.

Irrespective of fixed or floating, a piston retractor makes the job easier.

There's roughly 1500 miles left on the pads according to iDrive. For £3 I may as well replace it though?

I can borrow a mate's torque wrench, that's not a problem.

Do you mean use copper grease on the back of the pads instead of specific anti squeak compound? Assume it does the same job?

When you say piston retractor, I assume that's the bit of kit which pushes the piston back in to the caliper? Can this not be done by hand?

[siross]

Before I go ahead and buy the brake pads, can someone confirm which of these I should be going for, on the Eurocarparts website, there are 2 options, Rear and Rear Axle?

[Ajs_435d]

I've had yellow stuff before and been fine on both cars.

[Watsey]

Si, those photos / shots don't seem to display when I try to open them. If in doubt, call the supplier to be sure.

[siross]

Originally Posted by Watsey

Si, those photos / shots don't seem to display when I try to open them. If in doubt, call the supplier to be sure.

Hmmm, that's strange. They're showing up for me...

Do these links work?

Brembo Brake Pads (Rear; Rear Axle) Product Code: 10111107A

Brembo Brake Pad (Rear) - Product Code 10111096A

[teaston]

Originally Posted by siross

Hmmm, that's strange. They're showing up for me...

Do these links work?

Brembo Brake Pads (Rear; Rear Axle) Product Code: 10111107A

Brembo Brake Pad (Rear) - Product Code 10111096A

This is a list of matching pads to the ones in your first link:

http://infopart.org/brembo-p06072-part

These are for your second link:

http://infopart.org/brembo-p06071-part

You can see in those lists the BMW part numbers that they match.

[siross]

Originally Posted by teaston

This is a list of matching pads to the ones in your first link:

http://infopart.org/brembo-p06072-part

These are for your second link:

http://infopart.org/brembo-p06071-part

You can see in those lists the BMW part numbers that they match.

Brilliant, thanks Teaston.

Looks like the part number I need is 34216873093 (according to the BMW eBay parts store)

Confusingly, that part number doesn't correspond to either of the links?

[rossm]

Originally Posted by teaston

EBC completely changed the pad material a few years ago.

Linky? Google doesnt throw anything to me. Being a regular on Pistonheads, MLR and plenty of other car forums - the EBC are universally disliked. Your mileage may vary of course but I can only speak of my personal experience. I'd not touch EBC with someone else's 10ft bargepole

[teaston]

Originally Posted by siross

Brilliant, thanks Teaston.

Looks like the part number I need is 34216873093 (according to the BMW eBay parts store)

Confusingly, that part number doesn't correspond to either of the links?

If you put that part number in infopart it has the BREMBO P06071 in the list:

http://infopart.org/bmw-34216873093-part