First G20 Review

strike4A · 08-15-2018, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by dopper99

Was thinking before I read this that BMW really should provide an option to ditch run flats........... only to read that this car was tested with 19's on MPS4S non run flats

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Thats very interesting as before the only 19's fitted with non run flats were M cars.
(18" non run flats were an option on the F3x on certain models/configurations, but who wants 18's?

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For the G01 X3 M40i you can order non run flats - BMW call them "high performance tyres".

dopper99 · 08-15-2018, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by strike4A

For the G01 X3 M40i you can order non run flats - BMW call them "high performance tyres".

Yes, was looking at that earlier, but seems you can only get them on 20's on the X3.

So if they are calling these non run flats "high performance tyres", does that imply all other BMW factory fitted tyres (ie run flats) are crap "non-high performance" tyres?!

(which we've known all along)

teaston · 08-15-2018, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Lorcan

Thanks for posting Tim. Perhaps I need to dust off my CV?

It'll be ok, there's plenty of F30's still without ACS springs!

Tengocity · 08-15-2018, 07:18 AM

Meh...

Just doesn't sound all that exciting to me, and feels like more of the same. Disguise or no disguise it doesn't seem like it's going to move the looks or design on much either.

teaston · 08-15-2018, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Tengocity

Meh...

Just doesn't sound all that exciting to me, and feels like more of the same. Disguise or no disguise it doesn't seem like it's going to move the looks or design on much either.

Yea I know what you mean, it’s the new technology that I’m most interested in.

Daftasabrush · 08-15-2018, 10:05 AM

Is it me or was that really poorly written?

Confused by the LSD, they're referring to it as torque vectoring, LSD and e-diff all in the same article. Which one is it?

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Originally Posted by teaston

Yea I know what you mean, it’s the new technology that I’m most interested in.

Might as well go buy a peugeot if you want new technology, surely how it drives is more important?

Wills2 · 08-15-2018, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Daftasabrush

Is it me or was that really poorly written?

Confused by the LSD, they're referring to it as torque vectoring, LSD and e-diff all in the same article. Which one is it?

Might as well go buy a peugeot if you want new technology, surely how it drives is more important?

I read it as being an electronically controlled mechanical LSD like the one in the current F80 which can proactively lock and vector torque across the axle rather than just lock mechanically in response to wheel spin.

I don't think it's a brake controlled e-diff as some other cars have had which just use the brakes to slow the wheel down.

sahajesh · 08-15-2018, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by teaston

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Originally Posted by Tengocity

Meh...

Just doesn't sound all that exciting to me, and feels like more of the same. Disguise or no disguise it doesn't seem like it's going to move the looks or design on much either.

Yea I know what you mean, it’s the new technology that I’m most interested in.

Wait a while and get the Apple Car, slated for 2023-2025 - will have all the latest gadgets.

I have nothing to base this on, I suspect it will be a nerd's wet dream and drive like shit.

teaston · 08-15-2018, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Daftasabrush

Is it me or was that really poorly written?

Confused by the LSD, they're referring to it as torque vectoring, LSD and e-diff all in the same article. Which one is it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by teaston

Yea I know what you mean, it's the new technology that I'm most interested in.

Might as well go buy a peugeot if you want new technology, surely how it drives is more important?

Well yea I want both of those things obviously. How it looks is way down my list of priorities though.

teaston · 08-15-2018, 12:30 PM

The identical thread I posted on the G20 forum has been featured on Bimmerpost.com! First time I’ve ever had one of my threads featured!

Couple of strange things though, first is they’ve edited the thread title and added text to the post, and the second is that although it says it featured, I can’t see it on the bimmerpost homepage!?

NotGotABimmer23 · 08-15-2018, 01:42 PM

The big question is, will the m340i sound as good as the 340i mppsk... my money is on no, which is a shame.

ep22jg · 08-15-2018, 02:28 PM

My questions are - what specs will BMW let the UK have? and how long will we have to wait for all the variants to be released??

MarkyM · 08-15-2018, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Daftasabrush

Is it me or was that really poorly written?

Confused by the LSD, they're referring to it as torque vectoring, LSD and e-diff all in the same article. Which one is it?

It may be referring to the electronic M Sport Diff that the G01 M40i/M40d are getting, seems to be a more advanced/updated version of the e-diff and performance control systems although info on what it precisely does differently is a bit vague

JustChris · 08-15-2018, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by teaston

The identical thread I posted on the G20 forum has been featured on Bimmerpost.com! First time I’ve ever had one of my threads featured!

Couple of strange things though, first is they’ve edited the thread title and added text to the post, and the second is that although it says it featured, I can’t see it on the bimmerpost homepage!?

Its definitely there T Dog. Proud day indeed!

Personally I wished the Lamborghini in Norwich was front page. That was splendid

teaston · 08-15-2018, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JustChris

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Originally Posted by teaston

The identical thread I posted on the G20 forum has been featured on Bimmerpost.com! First time I've ever had one of my threads featured!

Couple of strange things though, first is they've edited the thread title and added text to the post, and the second is that although it says it featured, I can't see it on the bimmerpost homepage!?

Its definitely there T Dog. Proud day indeed!

Personally I wished the Lamborghini in Norwich was front page. That was splendid

Yes it's there now, shit i'm the man!

Can't believe you still remember the (fake) Countach thread!

MikeMc · 08-15-2018, 04:13 PM

Congrats on making the front page! Its about time the UK section got the recognition it deserved!

teaston · 08-15-2018, 04:53 PM

Crikey that thread has had 12k views already, in far less than a day!

teaston · 08-15-2018, 05:23 PM

A couple more reviews:

https://www.autoblog.com/2018/08/15/...usauto00000016

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...t-sedan-driven (VPN needed in UK)

HighlandPete · 08-15-2018, 05:26 PM

At last BMW are looking at more advanced passive damping characteristics.

From a technical perspective, like what I'm reading about the new design of damping on the G20 suspension.

Having used selective damping (Koni FSD) in an E91, to get supple, compliant and controlled suspension (and it works), I get where they are coming from. BMW's approach to adjust the damping forces towards the end of stroke, different front (rebound) to rear (compression), makes so much sense. Allows for a stiffer 'sport' spring, without the normal compromise we get over smaller bumps and hollows.

Looking forward to testing the G20 M-sport passive suspension, to see if it really works on our broken roads. If it does work on UK roads, this is a positive march forward for BMW.

330XDave · 08-15-2018, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by teaston

A couple more reviews:

https://www.autoblog.com/2018/08/15/...usauto00000016

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...t-sedan-driven (VPN needed in UK)

I don't think these reviews particularly help and just make it even more intriguing!

qa15ar · 08-16-2018, 06:30 AM

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...port-prototype

Wills2 · 08-16-2018, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Tengocity

Meh...

Just doesn't sound all that exciting to me, and feels like more of the same. Disguise or no disguise it doesn't seem like it's going to move the looks or design on much either.

For me the lack of interest is due to the lacklustre engine line up nothing new or exciting just the same units with small increases in power/mpg.

Same with the car overall a little lighter, a little bigger, a bit better to drive, a few more MPG and a bit more modern.

The interior could move the game on but time will tell.

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