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      08-18-2018, 08:37 PM   #67
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My opinion is that it is always smart to dress sharp and a well made well fitting suit is always going to impress. Parts guys are good with Kahkis, Sales guys suit is ideal but dress slacks, dress shirt is appropriate. Service Advisor (male) Kahkis minimum, dress slacks and dress shirt ideal. These are customer facing sales positions. This isn't a IT office where people sit around with Birkenstocks and Pajamas all day. Not that there is a damn thing wrong with that but this is BMW. One of the most successful German LUXURY car manufacturers in the world. Dress the part and impress the customers.
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Interesting to hear the views.

Not sure where the millennial bashing came from as I'd say in most dealerships it's the middle aged and older guys that need to sort themselves out most likely.

Comparing what's appropriate in an office with a casual dress code is also slightly different to a car dealership whose main purpose is serving customers of a high cost and premium brand.

The whole judging folk on their appearance is an interesting one. Clearly we all do it to some extent, and quite frankly I think that's absolutely right, to some extent. It's just finding that right level.

I know an ex-colleague who has an issue with fat people. It's not the appearance he says, but what it says about them as an individual- potentially lacking discipline, or lazy, or self esteem/confidence etc.

On one hand I've known folk where that's true, but also know plenty folk where it's not true and they were awesome at their jobs. How we judge colleagues is also different, rightly or wrongly, to how we judge someone about to serve or sell to us I'd say.

I can see why they stick with suits now though... not consensus on what it should be, and suits is the least offensive to the most people.
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At my local dealership the salesmen all wear trousers not jeans (couldn't tell you if they're chinos though) and logo'd dark grey fleece tops. The service staff (in the showroom) all wear trousers and black logo'd t-shirts. Receptionists - they're always sat behind a high desk so you can only see their faces. The finance guys wear suits.
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My opinion is that it is always smart to dress sharp and a well made well fitting suit is always going to impress. Parts guys are good with Kahkis, Sales guys suit is ideal but dress slacks, dress shirt is appropriate. Service Advisor (male) Kahkis minimum, dress slacks and dress shirt ideal. These are customer facing sales positions. This isn't a IT office where people sit around with Birkenstocks and Pajamas all day. Not that there is a damn thing wrong with that but this is BMW. One of the most successful German LUXURY car manufacturers in the world. Dress the part and impress the customers.
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So much scruffy rubbish walking about it’s nice to see anybody who’s smartly dressed and doesn’t look like a rag bag in trainers!
Why look scruffy on purpose? Lack of personal pride and laziness is a possibility!
Get yourself a proper pair of shoes, go to say Crockett & Jones or Edward Green, my favourites!
Throw away your trainers except for the gym or jogging!
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So much scruffy rubbish walking about it’s nice to see anybody who’s smartly dressed and doesn’t look like a rag bag in trainers!
Why look scruffy on purpose? Lack of personal pride and laziness is a possibility!
Get yourself a proper pair of shoes, go to say Crockett & Jones or Edward Green, my favourites!
Throw away your trainers except for the gym or jogging!
Yeah I can imagine your average car salesman making enough for a pair of shoes costing nearly £1000.

Possibly to wear with his £2k suit and £200 shirt?


When looking at cars I tend to avoid those in suits.

Salesman wear suits but the specialists that know about the cars do not.

Want to buy a car, talk to some cock in a suit that will tell you anything.

Want to know WHY to buy that specific car, talk to someone not in a suit.

BMW luxury brand, I had to laugh at that lol.

Possibly if they had separate show rooms with 1,2,3 and 4 series in the cheaper stores, then have 5 and above in more premium ones.
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When I take my care in for service, I worry about whether they will screw anything up or fix it. I worry about whether they will damage anything. I worry about what it will cost, but what people are wearing is far down on the list.
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My brother was a service manager for years with various (volume) brands. His rule was clear - black trousers, corporate shirt same as sales guys along with corporate tie (one team, respectful), and a name badge so they knew his name and what his role was...

And a pair of overalls handy so if someone asked a tech question he could look st it - he was a trained mechanic after all....
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When I take my care in for service, I worry about whether they will screw anything up or fix it. I worry about whether they will damage anything. I worry about what it will cost, but what people are wearing is far down on the list.
If someone has no pride in how they dress, why might you expect them to take any pride with your car?
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