[Munchi435i]

Originally Posted by thejeremyman9

I'm not claiming one thing is "better" than another lol, too subjective. Just trying to help OP with a cost/benefit analysis on his decision. Catless isn't for everyone in the first place for various reasons besides sound.

I hear what your saying...wink...wink! Catless all the way!!! Lol jk 😜

[White435]

Originally Posted by thejeremyman9

Resonator delete with stock axleback is pretty similar to MPE with stock midpipe and resonator delete is a fraction of the price and fully reversible. Just food for thought.

I know it's very affordable and easy mod but doesn't it cause drone in lower RPM?

[White435]

Originally Posted by Munchi435i

I hear what your saying...wink...wink! Catless all the way!!! Lol jk

I'm more concerned of getting CEL than failing emission tests. My country is actually not that strict about emissions. If they test me they can forbid me from driving the car untill I get it fixed and then they need to chceck again but the usual annual car inspection doesn't involve emission tests. I mean, if I change my exhaust they might get more interested in performing the test but who knows.

[johnung]

Originally Posted by thejeremyman9

I'm not claiming one thing is "better" than another lol, too subjective. Just trying to help OP with a cost/benefit analysis on his decision. Catless isn't for everyone in the first place for various reasons besides sound.

I agree. I couldn't stand the gasoline smell of a catless downpipe. Plus my wife would shoot me. Nothing like a classy European sports sedan that stinks! 😀

[thejeremyman9]

Originally Posted by White435

I know it's very affordable and easy mod but doesn't it cause drone in lower RPM?

No, especially not with a catted DP. Catted DP + res delete is a very tame exhaust setup compared to what most people run.

[thejeremyman9]

Originally Posted by White435

I'm more concerned of getting CEL than failing emission tests. My country is actually not that strict about emissions. If they test me they can forbid me from driving the car untill I get it fixed and then they need to chceck again but the usual annual car inspection doesn't involve emission tests. I mean, if I change my exhaust they might get more interested in performing the test but who knows.

You can tune out the CEL from appearing, so if you don't need to pass emissions, there are many cheater catted DP options on the market.

[GPM]

My completely unscientific recommendation, basically because its what I have, Fabspeed catted, Akropovic exhaust.

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by GPM

My completely unscientific recommendation, basically because its what I have, Fabspeed catted, Akropovic exhaust.

[indyjoeshmo]

What are people using for a resonator delete? I see one from Turner for $200, but dont see much else out of the US.

[thejeremyman9]

Originally Posted by indyjoeshmo

What are people using for a resonator delete? I see one from Turner for $200, but dont see much else out of the US.

You use a piece of pipe that any shop welds in its place, should cost <$100 for the shop to cut out your resonator and weld in a piece of pipe. I paid $90 and it took him maybe 20 minutes.

[terryd5150]

Originally Posted by thejeremyman9

No, especially not with a catted DP. Catted DP + res delete is a very tame exhaust setup compared to what most people run.

Are you running the stock cat or a hi-flow cat?

[thejeremyman9]

Originally Posted by terryd5150

Are you running the stock cat or a hi-flow cat?

Fabspeed catted, see my video above.

[terryd5150]

Originally Posted by thejeremyman9

Fabspeed catted, see my video above.

Same turbo and/or tune in the before and after?

Can really hear the turbo spooling much more distinctly in the after....

[Jvac]

I installed the awe axle back a couple of months ago. It sounds great from outside the car. Inside, when driving, I was a little surprised it's not that loud. It's louder than stock, but so much of the wonderful, artful sound they designed into that muffler is lost to the car's sound insulation unless the windows or sunroof are down, or you are high in the Rev range. It absolutely does not drone, that is true. Doesn't matter that it isn't valved. It's good as my daily driver. If you also install the midpipe it's going to be even louder and more obnoxious to other drivers neighbirs etc.
I'm afraid you have to go to a drastic length like catless or straight pipe to really really hear it inside the car, and those systems are just obnoxious sounding to me. I don't think there's a better sounding exhaust than the awe for the price.

[thejeremyman9]

Originally Posted by terryd5150

Same turbo and/or tune in the before and after?

Can really hear the turbo spooling much more distinctly in the after....

Yes that video was literally on the way to and back from the exhaust shop... All of the holes in the resonator are what mute the turbo spool noise. I will add a disclaimer that videos always sound louder from behind the car so you can't watch a video filmed from behind like that and expect it to sound that way inside the car. The setup is pretty tame/quiet, but you do hear that inside the car if you are next to a wall or something for the sound to echo off of

[kickthecan]

Originally Posted by Jvac

I installed the awe axle back a couple of months ago. It sounds great from outside the car. Inside, when driving, I was a little surprised it's not that loud. It's louder than stock, but so much of the wonderful, artful sound they designed into that muffler is lost to the car's sound insulation unless the windows or sunroof are down, or you are high in the Rev range. It absolutely does not drone, that is true. Doesn't matter that it isn't valved. It's good as my daily driver. If you also install the midpipe it's going to be even louder and more obnoxious to other drivers neighbirs etc.
I'm afraid you have to go to a drastic length like catless or straight pipe to really really hear it inside the car, and those systems are just obnoxious sounding to me. I don't think there's a better sounding exhaust than the awe for the price.

I'm catless with an AWE axel back now. Not obnoxious and not that much louder either. My car doesn't have active sound design either but I still find it quiet. I had the performance midpipe on and yeah, a lot louder. If only there was a midpoint between the stock mids and the performance midpipe

Even with catless, you still have to have a window open to really hear the exhaust

[Jvac]

Originally Posted by kickthecan

I'm catless with an AWE axel back now. Not obnoxious and not that much louder either. My car doesn't have active sound design either but I still find it quiet. I had the performance midpipe on and yeah, a lot louder. If only there was a midpoint between the stock mids and the performance midpipe

Even with catless, you still have to have a window open to really hear the exhaust

Interesting post. Thanks for contributing. I heard the biggest change in sound came from the downpipe but I've never heard this in person so I don't know for myself

[Shaggz]

did you end up ordering something yet?

[n55david]

straight pipe it all the way back

[White435]

Originally Posted by Shaggz

did you end up ordering something yet?

Not yet, I'm still doing research.

[Jvac]

Originally Posted by White435

Not yet, I'm still doing research.

Awe touring my friend. It sounds so good. You won't be disappointed

[n55david]

Originally Posted by Jvac

Awe touring my friend. It sounds so good. You won't be disappointed

sounds terrible