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      03-07-2024, 04:16 PM   #1
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Will a High Flow Catted Downpipe on stock tune throw a CEL?

Trying to trade in my car with minimal effort. I have a CT Turbo high flow catted downpipe for my stage 2 tune but want to flash back to stock. Was wondering if I could leave the catted downpipe in there on stock tune or would it throw a check engine light?
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Likely will throw a CEL. Most tunes designed for high flow or catless downpipes will block the CEL. Might not happen immediately but probably fairly soon.
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Depends on the quality of the cat. MY CG didn't when I was stock. I know the AA won't as well.
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Depends on the quality of the cat. MY CG didn't when I was stock. I know the AA won't as well.
^^^this
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AA does not even on a 600whp car with tons of mods.
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I found it requires highway/motorway driving for 20 miles or so before a light appears. Download the MHD app, on a free license you can clear code. Light disappears, you can trade car in etc. Also ISTA can clear it.
Once mapped i never got the light.

Also some people use this
https://mtcmotorsport.co.uk/products...iABEgI6QPD_BwE
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I found it requires highway/motorway driving for 20 miles or so before a light appears. Download the MHD app, on a free license you can clear code. Light disappears, you can trade car in etc. Also ISTA can clear it.
Once mapped i never got the light.

Also some people use this
https://mtcmotorsport.co.uk/products...iABEgI6QPD_BwE
Is there one available for N55 EWG? is there US shipping
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AA does not even on a 600whp car with tons of mods.
+1 the active autowerke downpipe uses EPA-approved GESI cats rated at 850 whp.

It also comes with a no CEL guarantee.
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I found it requires highway/motorway driving for 20 miles or so before a light appears. Download the MHD app, on a free license you can clear code. Light disappears, you can trade car in etc. Also ISTA can clear it.
Once mapped i never got the light.

Also some people use this
https://mtcmotorsport.co.uk/products...iABEgI6QPD_BwE
Thanks for the info on MHD, gonna give it a shot. Any idea if the CEL come back even after clearing with MHD?
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Thanks for the info on MHD, gonna give it a shot. Any idea if the CEL come back even after clearing with MHD?
Yes light will come back on after a few miles of either driving on motorway/highway. think 100 miles or so.
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Yes light will come back on after a few miles of either driving on motorway/highway. think 100 miles or so.
Ah okay, I thought clearing codes through MHD would mean it covers it completely. It’s the same as clearing codes using a regular OBD reader then?
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Ah okay, I thought clearing codes through MHD would mean it covers it completely. It’s the same as clearing codes using a regular OBD reader then?
Yes.. MHDs code clearing is just a regular code clear, it is not a "code suppressor".

And it's a free option. You don't need to purchase a license to read /clear codes in MHD. I prefer the MHD code reader because it has a handy feature that lets you email the report.
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you could use MHD to flash it back to MHD stage 0 map and then disable the cel? car would perform as stock and wouldnt throw the CEL
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you could use MHD to flash it back to MHD stage 0 map and then disable the cel? car would perform as stock and wouldnt throw the CEL
I've done this and CEL comes back after a drive or two, seems fast when you go on the highway. I might just flash in the parking lot before trading it.... they know it's a straight pipe already.
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+1 the active autowerke downpipe uses EPA-approved GESI cats rated at 850 whp.

It also comes with a no CEL guarantee.
Agree 100% and got mine from X-PH about 2 years ago.
2 years now of passing state emissions no problem at all.

You do need to flash back to stock if tuned, and have all of the readiness monitors "set" by doing a "BMW drive cycle" or two.

I don't understand people not spending the extra $600-800 or so for an AA catted downpipe over some other high-flow brand without a "NO CEL guarantee" and then having to deal with all of the emissions issues (and your time and money) it causes - especially if you have to change back to the stock DP for emissions and then switch it again afterwards.

I my state I have to deal with safety and emissions every year so it's a big deal.
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Agree 100% and got mine from X-PH about 2 years ago.
2 years now of passing state emissions no problem at all.
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