09-17-2019, 09:48 PM | #1 |
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09-18-2019, 03:05 PM | #2 |
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Mobil is playing catch up to Amsoil that has been producing European Formula oil for at least 5 years. Amsoil has approvals from the car mfrs, more than what other oil producers say "recommended for".
(I haven't listed specs for other car mfrs like Audi, MB, Porsche, Renault, VW) 5W-40 BMW spec LL-01 5W-40 BMW spec LL-04 0W-40 BMW spec LL-01 5W-30 BMW spec LL-04 They haven't bothered with 0W-20 because there is no market as long as BMW is offering free oil under warranty. |
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09-18-2019, 07:58 PM | #3 | |
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API SN, SM… ACEA A3/B3, A3/B4 BMW LL-01 GM LL-B-025 Renault 0700, 0710 Manufacturer Approvals*: MB-Approval 229.5; Porsche A40; VW 502.00, 505.00 It looks like the only official approvals they have are for Mercedes-Benz, Porsche, and VW. That said, I’m sure their oil does indeed meet the other specs, it’s too easy to test and sue or false advertising these days, and I’m sure no oil manufacturer worth their salt would take that risk. Last edited by IraHayes; 09-18-2019 at 09:19 PM.. |
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09-19-2019, 07:55 AM | #4 |
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You can bet your last dollar that only what Amsoil can stand behind is stated. If they don't meet any requirement that application will not be on the application guide (the app is on line and as a phone app). They have no oil sold for my B58 engine.
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09-22-2019, 08:14 AM | #5 |
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LL01 is a defunct spec so they could not get a new cert with the reformulation of 0w40FS. It appears they simply took an existing oil, which has the cert, from another market and brought it to the US.
Basically it's not a new oil but new to the US. M1 doesn't have to play catch up. Bad timing for BMW because they had to jump to LL01fe for reliability and compatiblity with US gas and then on to 0w20 for CAFE created this weird market for BMW oils. Better that M1 just wait it out. LL01FE is a dead cert as well. Interestingly LL04 is still an active cert and was updated in 2018-'17 per Lubrizol.
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I’m doing my own “testing” if you will. I used Pennzoil Platinum Euro 5w-40 and sent out a sample to Blackstone for analysis when I changed the oil; results were excellent. I’m currently running LiquiMoly Molygen of the same grade. I will be changing my oil next weekend and sending a sample of that out to Blackstone as well. I will be using Amsoil next. Whichever one of those three displays the best results is the one I will stick with. |
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