[Dan_B]

Hi,

I have a 2016 330e F30 with a ID4 headunit, touch control and 8.8" screen with ATM. I'm looking at changing the headunit to ID6 but I'm new to this and have a few questions.

Hardware:

I have read that it's better to look for a late 2018 version. Is this due to the ID version that's installed? Would it be better to buy a HW4.1 unit from another F chassis? I've seen a unit from a 2020 4 series, would there be any problems with this?

Coding:

So I've installed esys and have the enet cable. I've connected to the car so know that is working fine. I've found the below steps on the forum which are very useful from AMarston.

1) Physically install the NBT EVO ID6 unit to the car
2) Turn on the car ignition and open Esys
3) Open External Applications -> Transmitter
4) Run the 'readVin' job to discover VINs against ECUs
5) Capture Donor VIN of Head Unit
6) Switch over to 'FSC Extended' tab
7) Connect to 0x63 and Identify
8) Use the WriteVIN job to update the vin of the donor HU with my own VIN
9) Switch over to 'Coding' Tab
10) Activate the FA
11) Read ECU
12) Right Click the HU NBT and Code

I then just need to purchase FSC codes for my VIN on the new iDrive unit and inject?


Are there any other steps I need to include?

I have a Harman Kardon system, does this need to be coded in the new headunit?

Do I have to code which touch controller I have?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Dan

[Wibbles]

You need to install the HU, write the VIN CPS to the HU using FSC extended, as above - this will be your own VIN from your car, the full 17 digits.

Go to the Expert > Coding Tab, read out your FA then edit and change the production date to 0317 (March 2017)

Save and go back.

Read ECU's, find the Headunit in the SVT list, right click on the folder and click "Code" - this will code the correct options of your car to the headunit.

If you are not swapping the screen for an APIX 2 screen and sticking with the APIX 1 screen that came with your car, then that presents a couple of issues:

1st - you need to FDL code the headunit for APIX1 as after VO coding above, the screen will show "No Signal" - FDL code:

CID_COM_MODE = SPI
CID_APIX = APIX1

then click "Code FDL"

you should have the screen working now.

If the Headunit has firmware later than 03-2018 then you will get random black screens using the APIX1 display - this is a firmware issue, nothing can be done, so either use an APIX2 screen or you need a headunit with earlier firmware or flash this unit to that version, but that brings it's own issues...

If you need an APIX2 screen, I know of one for £150 and it is mint

Next thing you need to do is activate the headunit to your VIN, drop me a PM I can help you with that for free.

[Dan_B]

Thank you for your reply wibbles, very helpful! I'll be in touch.

[sqexpress]

If I replace the old screen with APX2 touch screen, is there any coding required?

[Wibbles]

Originally Posted by sqexpress

If I replace the old screen with APX2 touch screen, is there any coding required?

only if you want the touch features to work.

[Dan_B]

I would just like to thank Wibbles for his time and and effort he has put into helping me with upgrading my car. I don't know many that would put this much into helping complete stranger. He is a great value to this forum.

Thank you.

[Wibbles]

Originally Posted by Dan_B

I would just like to thank Wibbles for his time and and effort he has put into helping me with upgrading my car. I don't know many that would put this much into helping complete stranger. He is a great value to this forum.

Thank you.

You're most welcome Dan.

[Skysweeper]

Originally Posted by Wibbles

If the Headunit has firmware later than 03-2018 then you will get random black screens using the APIX1 display - this is a firmware issue, nothing can be done, so either use an APIX2 screen or you need a headunit with earlier firmware or flash this unit to that version, but that brings it's own issues...

Thanks for your reply. I have an id5 unit and an apix1 screen. In case I will use a voltage converter will I still be getting random black screens?

[Wibbles]

Originally Posted by Skysweeper

Thanks for your reply. I have an id5 unit and an apix1 screen. In case I will use a voltage converter will I still be getting random black screens?

You don't need a voltage converter for an Apix1 screen, only for older NBT ID3 screens.

[Skysweeper]

Originally Posted by Wibbles

You don't need a voltage converter for an Apix1 screen, only for older NBT ID3 screens.

Oh really? That's great news. The problem is that I sent my nbt for coding and the guy who did it told me its not gonna work with my screen. He used another screen from f15 in the process.
my screen is bm 9387453 02 4
I don't know which one is it
Can you help me?

[steve@codemybimmer]

Originally Posted by Skysweeper

Oh really? That's great news. The problem is that I sent my nbt for coding and the guy who did it told me its not gonna work with my screen. He used another screen from f15 in the process.
my screen is bm 9387453 02 4
I don't know which one is it
Can you help me?

This is an ID4 APIX1 screen so it can work on an ID5/ID6 unit without the voltage converter.

If the firmware on the HU is newer than March 2018, you will have random black screen issues FYI.

[Skysweeper]

Originally Posted by steve@codemybimmer

This is an ID4 APIX1 screen so it can work on an ID5/ID6 unit without the voltage converter.

If the firmware on the HU is newer than March 2018, you will have random black screen issues FYI.

Thanks for the info. Do I have to do any coding in order for it to work? Can you tell me which screen will fit without any issues in my f30?

[Wibbles]

it does need coding to work or you can fit an APIX 2 screen which does not need coding and won't suffer from random black screens

[Skysweeper]

Originally Posted by Wibbles

it does need coding to work or you can fit an APIX 2 screen which does not need coding and won't suffer from random black screens

Can you pls tell me how do i know which display is apix2?

[atzebmw]

Originally Posted by Skysweeper

Can you pls tell me how do i know which display is apix2?

part number for the 8,8" display:

65506822626

part numbers for the 8,8" display with touch:

65506844126
65508709338
65508709339

[Skysweeper]

Originally Posted by atzebmw

part number for the 8,8" display:

65506822626

part numbers for the 8,8" display with touch:

65506844126
65508709338
65508709339

Thank you!