HPFP New Option

n55david · 03-06-2019, 11:06 AM

Can someone explain what is needed and what it would do for us?

T_H_O_M_A_S · 03-06-2019, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Fplcman

I just picked one up on car-part.com for $120 Shipped. It was on a 2018...

I should have it soon and I plan to install it this weekend.

id love to hear your experiences , succes with the swap

alexng72 · 03-06-2019, 11:44 AM

There are plenty on car-part.com guys
For example:
https://imageappky.car-part.com/imag...tock%23%204310

T_H_O_M_A_S · 03-06-2019, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Phantom10R

Can someone explain what is needed and what it would do for us?

partno for the pump : 13517642466
partno for the connector 12518638006 ( if your car is later 2014 you prolly wont need this )

the other instructions are already in this thread

cfm56d7b · 03-06-2019, 12:22 PM

This thread is one of the most valuable ones to date. Thank you for the research efforts.

ChristosD · 03-07-2019, 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T_H_O_M_A_S

partno for the pump : 13517642466
partno for the connector 12518638006 ( if your car is later 2014 you prolly wont need this )

the other instructions are already in this thread

by 2014 are you referring to EWG cars wont need this?

bdragon46 · 03-07-2019, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ChristosD

by 2014 are you referring to EWG cars wont need this?

I think he meant won't need the connector

Munchi435i · 03-07-2019, 07:24 AM

I wonder if the PWG cars use the same HPFP as EWG???

T_H_O_M_A_S · 03-07-2019, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ChristosD

by 2014 are you referring to EWG cars wont need this?

pwg to ewg is around 6/7 2013
after 3/2014 they have changed the connector to the hpfp .
if the unit itself is different

GatorF30 · 03-07-2019, 03:24 PM

This is a game changer. Thank you T_H_O_M_A_S, I would buy you a beer or 50 if I lived in Belgium.

The free market is a beautiful thing, someone needs to put together a step by step visual guide and do some more testing. Only a matter of time before the XDI price goes down too.

jv004 · 03-08-2019, 12:45 AM

Woah.... All in if this turns out to be a good price-performance ratio for the N55. Subscribed!

Mike. · 03-08-2019, 05:35 AM

So I have a 2013 pwg, so I would need both parts.. correct?

EDWYER · 03-08-2019, 08:40 AM

Awesome.

adrien78 · 03-08-2019, 11:27 AM

I checked on BMW parts.
They have, in fact, modified the HPFP ref from 13517610761 to 13518604231 in March 2014.

The old one seems discontinued, they offer the new ref with a connector mandatory for pre-march-2014 cars. (12518638006)

Munchi435i · 03-08-2019, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adrien78

I checked on BMW parts.
They have, in fact, modified the HPFP ref from 13517610761 to 13518604231 in March 2014.

The old one seems discontinued, they offer the new ref with a connector mandatory for pre-march-2014 cars. (12518638006)

My build date is 4/14 so im hoping i wont need the connector but waiting to see some more data before pulling the trigger!

adrien78 · 03-08-2019, 12:16 PM

It has been said on the other forum, and it seems very interesting to me.

The "HDP5" fuel pump on N55 (BMW 13518604231 / Bosch 261520283) seems to run at 1.12cc but the "HDP5 Evo" version (BMW 13517642466 / Bosch 0261520258) runs at 1.2cc according to Bosch specifications.

XDI says their hpfp deliver 1.22cc, really close from the Evo version.

http://www.xtreme-di.com/product/bmw-n55-hpfp/

I don't mean bullshit but, in this case, why the Evo one would not be suitable to run more fuel and go 100% E85 ?

n55david · 03-08-2019, 12:33 PM

Does anything need to be done to do the swap? I mean is the pump a direct bolt on ?

MineralF30 · 03-08-2019, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phantom10R

Does anything need to be done to do the swap? I mean is the pump a direct bolt on ?

Yes, he explains it in an earlier post. You must modify a flange to get a bolt to fit for it to directly bolt in.

Then you have to make sure the connector on your car will fit the new pump. If not, you'll need to modify that also

adrien78 · 03-08-2019, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phantom10R

Does anything need to be done to do the swap? I mean is the pump a direct bolt on ?

If you check the 2 Bosch ref I gave before, you will see that the 2 pumps are not in the same ways compared to their mounting plates. So you need to make new holes in the new one to fit in the right way.

Connector is the same for post-march-2014 models. Before you need adaptor. (see above).

hardparker · 03-08-2019, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adrien78

It has been said on the other forum, and it seems very interesting to me.

The "HDP5" fuel pump on N55 (BMW 13518604231 / Bosch 261520283) seems to run at 1.12cc but the "HDP5 Evo" version (BMW 13517642466 / Bosch 0261520258) runs at 1.2cc according to Bosch specifications.

XDI says their hpfp deliver 1.22cc, really close from the Evo version.

http://www.xtreme-di.com/product/bmw-n55-hpfp/

I don't mean bullshit but, in this case, why the Evo one would not be suitable to run more fuel and go 100% E85 ?

It remains to be seen. I know someone (Paul somebody, maybe the tuner guy) has run straight E85 on a B58. The B58 makes 420 whp on BM3 with the stock fuel system. With JB4 and lean, 14:1 AFR on race gas, it makes more like 525 whp.

We'll see what the pump does on the N55 over time. I'm estimating it'll be good for up to 475 whp on the N55, but that's just an educated guess.

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kevinjt · 03-09-2019, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by alexng72

There are plenty on car-part.com guys
For example:
https://imageappky.car-part.com/imag...tock%23%204310

For how much are they going? I cant access that link...

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