340i / 440i (B58) BMW M Performance Power and Sound Kit (MPPSK) Official Release

Araemo · 09-26-2016, 01:54 PM

Any of you that have it installed, can you comment on the 'sticker set' the instructions mention? Maybe include pictures of the stickers installed? I'd prefer not to have a bunch of extra stickers/vinyl all over the car.

Big Nodge · 09-26-2016, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Araemo

Any of you that have it installed, can you comment on the 'sticker set' the instructions mention? Maybe include pictures of the stickers installed? I'd prefer not to have a bunch of extra stickers/vinyl all over the car.

The kit comes with a little M Performance Power Kit plaque on the engine cover, a little white label under the hood that they fill in when they update the programming, and two M Performance stickers. The instructions say not to install the stickers unless the customer asks for them - I specified "plaque/label yes, stickers no" when I dropped the car off just in case. Got my stickers with the paperwork for the kit, might put them in my garage or something.

CruzM3 · 09-26-2016, 02:35 PM

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I had mines installed before delivery and I wasn't in the test drive 340 that didn't have the MPPSK long enough to notice any difference in ASD. No M Performance on the displays on startup. You have to code it in which is what I did. The HUD takes awhile to startup so it doesn't display there but on the instrument cluster instead unless you go ignition on accessory for a few seconds then start the car but that's to much trouble for me. Coding also has it display on the Nav screen.

Thanks, good to know we can code it in. So you have seen the M Performance logo show up on the HUD when you've let it start up after sitting for a couple seconds with the ignition on?

Yes I have.

CruzM3 · 09-26-2016, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Araemo

Any of you that have it installed, can you comment on the 'sticker set' the instructions mention? Maybe include pictures of the stickers installed? I'd prefer not to have a bunch of extra stickers/vinyl all over the car.

The kit comes with a little M Performance Power Kit plaque on the engine cover, a little white label under the hood that they fill in when they update the programming, and two M Performance stickers. The instructions say not to install the stickers unless the customer asks for them - I specified "plaque/label yes, stickers no" when I dropped the car off just in case. Got my stickers with the paperwork for the kit, might put them in my garage or something.

^This. You can also specify where you want the plaque to go in the engine bay. I told my dealer not to put it on the engine cover b/c I don't like the way it looks. You can see where I put mines:

Araemo · 09-26-2016, 03:09 PM

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^This. You can also specify where you want the plaque to go in the engine bay. I told my dealer not to put it on the engine cover b/c I don't like the way it looks. You can see where I put mines:

Since mine is port installed, I'm not sure how much control I'll have over it, I'll have to talk to my dealer.

Big Nodge · 09-26-2016, 03:24 PM

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Since mine is port installed, I'm not sure how much control I'll have over it, I'll have to talk to my dealer.

When the time comes, you'll want to get in touch with someone directly at BMW NA's port-installed accessory program. They were very helpful to me and were able to get things done that my dealer didn't even think were possible.

Hachima · 09-26-2016, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Cruz28/40

I had mines installed before delivery and I wasn't in the test drive 340 that didn't have the MPPSK long enough to notice any difference in ASD. No M Performance on the displays on startup. You have to code it in which is what I did. The HUD takes awhile to startup so it doesn't display there but on the instrument cluster instead unless you go ignition on accessory for a few seconds then start the car but that's to much trouble for me. Coding also has it display on the Nav screen.

Is this something the dealer would be able to code in? If so is there any specifics on what to request exactly? Or is this only possible with coding on your own/3rd party coder.

CruzM3 · 09-27-2016, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Cruz28/40

I had mines installed before delivery and I wasn't in the test drive 340 that didn't have the MPPSK long enough to notice any difference in ASD. No M Performance on the displays on startup. You have to code it in which is what I did. The HUD takes awhile to startup so it doesn't display there but on the instrument cluster instead unless you go ignition on accessory for a few seconds then start the car but that's to much trouble for me. Coding also has it display on the Nav screen.

Is this something the dealer would be able to code in? If so is there any specifics on what to request exactly? Or is this only possible with coding on your own/3rd party coder.

I'm not sure if the dealer would do it.

Dan203 · 09-27-2016, 05:29 PM

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On my 6MT.... <clip>

The power increase is subtle, but it's there....

The first post in this thread says that the torque increase for the manual is only 25lb-ft compared to 39lb-ft for the automatic. I wonder if that makes the power increase more noticeable in the automatic?

TheObviousChild · 09-28-2016, 10:06 AM

Curious to hear if anybody notices an increased turbo lag after upgrading.

Araemo · 09-28-2016, 10:29 AM

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Curious to hear if anybody notices an increased turbo lag after upgrading.

Given that it's the same turbo, I'd be very surprised if there is more lag.

TheObviousChild · 09-28-2016, 11:38 AM

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Given that it's the same turbo, I'd be very surprised if there is more lag.

I admit, I don't know a whole lot about this, but I was under the impression that, given the same turbo, if the software is tuned to create more boost and bump hp, we might see more lag before it kicks in.

mtx450 · 09-28-2016, 11:54 AM

@Big Nodge

The ASD seems to have been disabled on the latest I-Step level(s). Myself and many other people have noticed it. When you had the kit installed, the programming on your car was updated and most likely disabled it.

bjcarls · 09-28-2016, 01:06 PM

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Curious to hear if anybody notices an increased turbo lag after upgrading.

No lag detected, just smiles.

Also, yes, they place one plaque in the engine bay and give you stickers in a bag along with a certificate with tech signature.

Araemo · 09-28-2016, 01:06 PM

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I admit, I don't know a whole lot about this, but I was under the impression that, given the same turbo, if the software is tuned to create more boost and bump hp, we might see more lag before it kicks in.

I guess it depends on your definition of turbo lag. If you mean delay between flooring it and 'max' power (for that rpm) being produced, you're probably right.. but I would expect that you'll get to the old 'max' power level in the same amount of time, if not faster, so you probably wouldn't notice it as 'more lag', just 'more power' in the end... IE, I'd expect at least as good throttle response (delay between pressing the gas and getting more power from the engine) as before, possibly slightly better.... can anyone who got this installed after having their car for a while chip in?

From a technical standpoint - if all they did was increase the max boost, I'm sure it would add lag. But if they did a more holistic tune (which I'd expect), you'll probably see more timing advance, and a different fueling map as well as other changes, and together you might actually get less turbo lag in some/most/all circumstances.

Dan203 · 09-28-2016, 01:28 PM

Does the reprogramming change the throttle response at all?

CruzM3 · 09-28-2016, 01:42 PM

Throttle response is increased and it climbs through the rpms faster. As someone else said more smiles not more lag.

eluded · 09-28-2016, 02:07 PM

Lag will not increase when increasing boost as mentioned.

Big Nodge · 09-28-2016, 02:23 PM

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@Big Nodge

The ASD seems to have been disabled on the latest I-Step level(s). Myself and many other people have noticed it. When you had the kit installed, the programming on your car was updated and most likely disabled it.

Yeah, I'm aware of that, have asked my dealer if my software was updated. Hard to say for sure, no note of a software update on the work order, and I can't say for sure that ASD is off, because the ASD settings might be different with the MPPSK. Either way the thing sounds mean from outside the car, that's for sure.

Dan203 · 09-28-2016, 03:16 PM

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Throttle response is increased and it climbs through the rpms faster. As someone else said more smiles not more lag.

I didn't like the default throttle response on my 340i Automatic so I installed a SprintBooster. I'm considering getting the MPPSK and I'm wondering if the SPrintBooster will still be needed after the upgrade.

I mainly drive in Comfort mode because I don't like how Sport holds on to gears even at low speed.

cmplaya · 09-28-2016, 10:15 PM

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I didn't like the default throttle response on my 340i Automatic so I installed a SprintBooster. I'm considering getting the MPPSK and I'm wondering if the SPrintBooster will still be needed after the upgrade.

I mainly drive in Comfort mode because I don't like how Sport holds on to gears even at low speed.

my 6MT always shifts exactly when I want it to, even in sport mode

eluded · 09-29-2016, 02:10 AM

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my 6MT always shifts exactly when I want it to, even in sport mode

Mine has the same issue.

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