[jwickers]

Well it is clearly not to scale, eg the E46 wheelbase is 196px in the image, E90 is 211px.
The real increase was 1.4" which should have been 2.6px rounded up, not the 15px in the picture.

The scale difference makes the E90 wheelbase increase look like 8.2", almost (missing 1.3") to the F10 size.

This also makes the F30 wheelbase look gigantic at 133", longer than a 7series LWB.

[WilliCO]

Originally Posted by Alan l.

This seems spot on to how i felt sitting in the F30 and F10 compared to my E90.

F30 didn't feel any different to me compared to my E90. Sorta felt right at home when i got in. Never drove the F30 so can't comment about that.

F10 on the other hand felt huge and much bigger all around. Felt bigger when on the road as well but also much more refined and quieter. Very solid unlike my E90 which creaks and rattles with only 16K miles.

Alan

Slight hijack, but I found that a lot of the creaks and rattles we hear actually result from hardened window trim plastic.

I was hearing a lot of creaks coming from the rear driver side door in my E60. I found a product called Gummi Phlagen, or something like that. After applying it to all of the door trim around the whole car, I was surprised at how much quieter everything got. Highly recommended.

[lawgone]

Originally Posted by Frosty

I would be curious to know if there have been lives saved because of this EU law... i'm skeptical

~Frost

Don't know, but I can't imagine how. To me it looks like the only thing they did was make sure your leg gets broken two inches higher than before.

[raymeechen]

It's be interesting if F01 (or even F02) is involved in the graphs!

[jhbodle]

How about comparing these to the little F20?

[georgere]

so E90 is lighter, shorted, smaller overhangs than F30? It was advertized differently...

[tony20009]

Originally Posted by Remonster

I know what you mean, we have an F10 parked next to an F30 in our garage and from behind they are very similar but the lower bumper is very different when you actually take time to look at the two. As for the size difference, I love the size of the F30 and think the F10 is an absolute land whale. It's great for fitting lots of 6'+ people and their luggage though.

Yes, the F10 is a big old brute of car. I've had mine for nearly two years and barely have 7K miles on it. I bought it mainly to replace my so-called "nice car," which is an '86 vintage. Even so, the F10 is still quite tossable, but you don't forget that it's a big car, particularly when you are looking for on street parking. LOL

The F30, seems big to me, but not from a driving point of view so much as just the interior space, the rear seat being so distant that I can't really just toss something on it and be able to reach it from the front seat, and I'm six feet tall and not portly at all. If I get one -- and I don't know that I will only because I doubt my E92 will be dead before the F30's production run ends -- at least my kids are beyond the age of my needing to reach back and lay down the law. LOL.

Indeed, my E92 may be the last 3er I buy -- assuming it doesn't break down -- as I really want a GT car, or a really grand coupe like a Bentley Brooklands, and the F30 is really larger than I want a daily driver to be. I'd be fine with a 1, 2 or 4 series car.

[Remonster]

Originally Posted by tony20009

Yes, the F10 is a big old brute of car. I've had mine for nearly two years and barely have 7K miles on it. I bought it mainly to replace my so-called "nice car," which is an '86 vintage. Even so, the F10 is still quite tossable, but you don't forget that it's a big car, particularly when you are looking for on street parking. LOL

The F30, seems big to me, but not from a driving point of view so much as just the interior space, the rear seat being so distant that I can't really just toss something on it and be able to reach it from the front seat, and I'm six feet tall and not portly at all. If I get one -- and I don't know that I will only because I doubt my E92 will be dead before the F30's production run ends -- at least my kids are beyond the age of my needing to reach back and lay down the law. LOL.

Indeed, my E92 may be the last 3er I buy -- assuming it doesn't break down -- as I really want a GT car, or a really grand coupe like a Bentley Brooklands, and the F30 is really larger than I want a daily driver to be. I'd be fine with a 1, 2 or 4 series car.

Not to derail this thread, but I came from an E90 3 series and I love the size of my little 1. It's not the most convenient for getting people into and out of the back but I'm 6'3 and can actually sit in the back seats if I need to. I'm really interested in the new 2 series coupe.

[roadmax]

Originally Posted by Micleg

Pedestrian safety. That's why. I think they also state what material you can have in the front (hence the amount of plastic). Volvo even added an external airbag for the hood now

OK for material type that is different topic.
I would like to see or read somewhere how is BMW explaining that pedestrian safety is improved by increasing front and rear overhang dimensions and by making the hood higher from the ground.

The best pedestrian safety would have been no cars at all.

[coop75]

Originally Posted by pcbrew

I would be interested in seeing
- F30 vs. E39
- F30 vs. E46

Me 2!!!

[gtiroller]

It looks like the size differences between the E90 and F30 appear to be largely in the rear.

Ignoring why anyone would want to do this—Could you directly bolt in an I6 engine+manual trans from an E90 into an F30? Are the mounts, spacing, shifter location compatible?

[Danddd]

F30 vs E60 would be interesting to see.